Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gavriel Olteanu

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep JodyB _talk 20:41, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gavriel Olteanu

Looks like hoax: no references, no google hits Alex Bakharev 12:07, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

• Delete Fails WP:RS --sumnjim ^{talk with me·changes} 13:17, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:V, WP:RS. While web searches are not the end-all and be-all, the complete lack of hits does support the hoax hypothesis. -- MarcoTolo 22:40, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
• Comment. The article also uses the spelling "Gavril Olteanu" which has Google hits[1]. Some are a language I don't know, some are Wikipedia and mirrors, but there are others including [2] and [3] (PDF). PrimeHunter 00:02, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

• Excellent work - I surrender to your superior search skills (no, really). Given PrimeHunter's sources, I no longer suspect hoax-ish-ness. This article needs much work, but I'd now support a keep. -- MarcoTolo 00:12, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

• Delete as copyvio of the last section in http://www.hungarian-history.hu/lib/genoci/genoci02.htm. http://www.hungarian-history.hu/lib/ says copyright. No reservation against later recreation without copyvio. PrimeHunter 00:17, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Comment. I've deleted the majority of the article to avoid copyvio problems - will attempt to create from scratch (as penance....). -- MarcoTolo 00:27, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Comment. OK. I will change to keep if it gets enough content for a decent stub. It should be moved to Gavril Olteanu, but I don't know whether it's best to do it now or when the AfD is over. PrimeHunter 01:02, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Romania-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 07:54, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 07:55, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, DES ^(talk) 21:45, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

• Delete. Extensive searching turns up minor mentions. Recognizing the non-English nature of probable sources, he just doesn't seem to be particularly notable except in regard to this alleged war crime, and we don't seem to have sufficient sources to write about that neutrally. Perhaps worthy of a mention in whatever article covers Romanian guerrillas operating in Hungary during WW2. --Dhartung | Talk 10:44, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as is, but if it can be expanded with reliable sources, this will be a keep.Balloonman 23:39, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Sounds like there are non English sources available and he passes the 10 year test 6 times over. Let's give MarcoTolo time to get his new sources [4] and rewrite. Paxse 13:17, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.