Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gary Skoien

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep per consensus PeaceNT 16:02, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gary Skoien

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Delete Non-notable politican who has only held positions within the local party organizations. Equally or less notable than Anthony Castrogiovanni who's page was deleted.--LyonsTwp,IL. 18:50, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep as an elected politician; maybe his elected office isn't by itself enough to satisfy WP:BIO, but his chairmanship of a major corporation & the press flurry about the "bounty" on Daley make him noteworthy enough (and more noteworthy than Tony Peraica, a bio of an elected official at exactly the same level in the same area which the nominator's written. Aside from the Tony Peraica article, the nominator's entire edit history consists of failed attempted db-bios & AfDs on Illinois politicians. - iridescenti (talk to me!) 20:25, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Comment you are wrong on each of your counts, first most of the pages I have nominated for deletion through db-bio have been deleted, and of the pages I have tried to have deleted through AfD, one (Tony Zirkle from Indiana) was deleted and one (Edward Forchion from New Jersey) wasn't. Second that still isn't my only edit history besides Tony Peraica which by the way I did not create as you had inaccuratly claimed if you had checked its edit history you would have seen that User:Sglover had created it. Third your vote is uninformed if you think Gary Skoien is a county commisioner as Peraica is, Skoien has never held an elected position outside of the local party organization. Your dubious attempt at discrediting me have failed on each of its counts.--LyonsTwp,IL. 17:05, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Reply to above - you didn't technically create it - however, you did expand it from a three sentence sub-stub to a full length article (the "9 intermediate revisions" are all yours). And your edit count and edit history show that of your 98 mainspace edits, 66 were revisions to Tony Peraica, 20 were attempted db-bios/AfDs on Illinois politicians, and 5 were attempts to slip non-NPOV material into Todd Stroger, leaving just seven "other" edits. I have no axe to grind here (I couldn't care less about Illinois politics) but this nomination looks possibly politically motivated. - iridescenti (talk to me!) 18:42, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —bbatsell ¿? ✍ 03:34, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Chairman of the Cook County Republican Central Committee. I emphatically do not think the chairmanship of a party country committee is normally notable, but this is an exception, because Cook County is Chicago, and in practical terms of American politics, that makes quite a difference. The involvement in various political scandals would be notable in any case. I see no information of the importance of his real estate business. At this level, we need to consider each article separately, so I ignore the comparisons. I also ignore editor's edit histories; the articles are what's in question here. DGG 03:54, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. Cook County is Chicago, and the scandals definitely make him notable. Abeg92contribs 16:51, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep: There are many articles on mayors of cities far smaller than Cook County's population, the second largest county in the United States with a population of several million and a by-word for machine politics.  RGTraynor  17:45, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, not due to position (predecessors and successors not automatically notable), but because of the controversies. --Dhartung | Talk 21:44, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. This person is in the public eye and has been written about. JamesMLane t c 03:36, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.