Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gary Lightbody

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The result of the debate was unanimous Keep. Xoloz 19:39, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gary Lightbody

Non-notable outside the context of his band jamiemcc 15:41, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

• Weak keep. WP:BIO suggests that a recording musician with more than 5000 album sales is sufficiently notable, which I think is applicable here. Bucketsofg✐ 15:56, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Well, WP:BIO is a guideline not a policy. That particular portion of the guideline could use some tweaking, after all a published author in a periodical of 5,000 or more is also considered notable, which I've accomplished. That would make a reporter for a small weekly in the middle of nowhere notable enough for an article. Aplomado ^talk 16:42, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
    • comment Indeed. It seems to me the question is also whether being the member of a band that is sufficiently notable is enough: hence the weak. But I'm happy to be in the minority here if others think otherwise. (I agree fully that the circulation number of 5000 is too low; and one-off publication shouldn't do it either: it should be regular contributions to a journal/paper several times that size, imo.) Bucketsofg✐ 16:55, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Keep - has a non Snow Patrol project but a bad article; I couldn't give a toss about his girlfriend. Or his band....Ac@osr 18:54, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Member of a band with four albums, and signed to a major label. Jcuk 19:33, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
  • • comment Perhaps merge with Snow Patrol article, then? The other members don't merit their own entry. jamiemcc 19:55, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Involved in two different bands. Article needs expanding, but definitely merits inclusion. Stu ^{’Bout ye!} 09:56, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, highly noted musician for two popular bands. Nom may have a point if it was only Snow Patrol he was involved with, but The Reindeer Section also had two albums and an international tour, and he keeps fairly busy. --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEMES?) 11:27, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Notable musician, meets WP:BIO. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 15:16, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Notable musician —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abbyemery (talk • contribs)
• Keep - as per above. Another reason why notability is subjective, POV, and should not be used as a criteria for inclusion in or deletion from Wikipedia. DanielZimmerman 19:50, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Our subjective judgement seems to be pointing toward the correct result here. This would suggest that, contrary to your stated opinion, notability is just fine as an extension of existing criteria, such as WP:VAIN and WP:V.-Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 14:22, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

• Keep as per some of the comments above. Lightbody is just entering a phase whereby he may well become more successful and more widely known. I fail to see the point in deleting an article which may need re-creating again once he has become more well-known than he is at present. Wikipedia is fond of reminding us from time to time that we have virtually unlimited space, and there already exist articles about people and things which are far less well-known than this singer/songwriter. --Mal 03:28, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

• Comment Good argument. Let's keep it. jamiemcc 19:06, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.