Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Garfield High School (New Jersey)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep per general consensus that high schools are notable. howcheng [ t • c • w • e ] 19:14, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Garfield High School (New Jersey)

Unlike the other Garfield High Schools listed on the disambiguation page, this school does not appear to have any notability other then the attendance of a member of the New York Jets football team. Benw 05:03, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

  • Delete, it shows no evidence of notability, like 99% of all schools across the world. Avalon 05:29, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, non-notable. Neutralitytalk 05:30, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
  • delete, it's nothing out of the ordinary. Broken S 05:33, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak keep, pick one from Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments. I've saved worse school stubs from deletion, but unfortunately, this school's website appears to be dead. The Internet Archive has some info, but not enough for me to expand the article. (I hope their Website Design Club isn't defunct...) —HorsePunchKid→龜 2005-12-10 06:03:48Z
  • Keep. Why is this different than the 83 other New Jersey high schools that have articles on the Wiki? -- JJay 06:10, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete per Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments. Andrew Levine 08:12, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
Heh heh... fair enough. :) I'd expand the article if I could, but sources are lacking. —HorsePunchKid→龜 2005-12-10 08:27:25Z
  • Delete as Avalon. It seems that there are too many highschool students with too much time on their hands and the need for attention. --Mecanismo 12:27, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep high schools. Pburka 17:34, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete all high schools unless specific notability is established. Firebug 18:00, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep all verifiable high schools. — RJH 18:08, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete useless schools Leonardo 18:35, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, as per Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Keep. Carioca 20:42, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep as per Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Keep. Two major alumni, well sourced, meets WP:SCH for those who ascribe to that, et cetera. Silensor 21:47, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. The comment that "this school does not appear to have any notability other than. . ." seems to indicate that it does have notability. Two professional football players as alumni seems to be enough; that's more than some other schools that are kept. peachlette 21:56, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
    couldn't that fact be at the players articles? If the "only" thing "notable" about it can be said in one sentence then it isn't notable enough to have its own article. Arguing that other articles, that are worse, are kept isn't an argument. Broken S 21:58, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
    • It's a high school. It's been there a long time. There are guaranteed to be plenty of notable things that have happened at Garfield High. -- JJay 00:20, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep as per Silensor and Peachlette, appears to meet WP:SCH criteria for inclusion. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 22:28, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep - I see no reason not to list every school in the world. Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 00:01, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
    • Then a separate wiki might be more appropriate. This is an encyclopedia, not a yellow pages. Denni ☯ 04:01, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak keep because of the alumni. Please make sure the article indicates when the principle worked at the school, so it can't easily get outdated over time. - Mgm|(talk) 00:49, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, article establishes notability. Christopher Parham (talk) 02:23, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak keep The lack of an active web site is a problem for gathering current information, but other outside sources make up for it (barely). Also, there's good verifiability of the two notable alumni. --Rob 02:30, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep and expand by telling number of students and when founded.User:Schmerguls
  • Delete Schools are not appropriate for inclusion in an encyclopaedia --Bucephalus 14:36, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep Articles about New Jersey's high schools are being revisited and edited as part of Wikiproject New Jersey, which includes a thorough revisiting of all pages for New Jersey high schools. There are over 400 high schools in New Jersey and over 85 have web pages already with many more being created. Garfield is a relatively poor community that has a web site for neither its municipality or its schools. This is a page worth keeping. Alansohn 16:11, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep high schools. Rhollenton 16:18, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
  • keep please erasing this does not make any sense at all Yuckfoo 22:20, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep or Merge into school district or town if article is both below three sentances and lacks any sort of illustration, boxed info-template or picture when AFD is closed. This school, like all others, is an important public institution and should be written about somewhere, even if it cannot sustain an article on it's own. Presently people do create school articles containing neutral, verifiable information and it is impossible to delete them, even though many have a desire to do so. Rather than striving for an impossible consensus to delete any given school article, I feel it is always preferable and takes much less energy to merge the text of the article into an article about a suitable habitation or administrative unit: a city, county or state, or a school district of local education authority of other school system, while taking care not to delete the information contained in the article. If the article is merged, the current location should be replaced by a redirect, and the edit history maintained for future use. This is the baseline consensus that I feel was reached at WP:SCH. Hipocrite - «Talk» 04:19, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep all high schools. --Liface 04:19, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep The mere fact of something's existence makes it worthy of inclusion. Kurt Weber 13:00, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete per Andrew Levine. Stifle 14:30, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep - as notable as any other high school. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 04:26, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep Though the article is extremely short, there is not sense in deleting it: the school at least has some evidence of notibility, and also could become a better article after expansion. Not too many high schools have something extremely notable about them; this is just like the typical high school. AndyZ 22:16, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. -- DS1953 05:32, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep - High schools aren't cruft. --Cyde Weys talkcontribs 11:01, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Extreme keep. Back to bed... —RaD Man (talk) 00:24, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.