Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Garage punk
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep Non-Admin Closure. Tiddly-Tom 06:59, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Garage punk
Seemingly unnotable genre that relies on a singular source. Very little information has been found on this, and I'm guessing there isn't much information out there Hoponpop69 (talk) 23:23, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. Term gets a fair amount of ghits. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 23:28, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
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- hits on google is not a criteria for notability, if a term has no second party reliable sources then it isn't notable. Please read WP:N fopr more info. --neonwhite user page talk 00:05, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- If it gets 719,000 hits then you're pretty much guarenteed to get at least a few reliable sources. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 00:27, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- That is incorrect, there is no such guarantee. You won't find any such policy on WP:N. We cannot assume there are sources unless they are provided. --neonwhite user page talk 00:30, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
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- Okay, since you apparently have a hard time accessing Google, I will provide them. Here's a few: (1) the Seattle Weekly, (2) Amazon, (3) The Chicago Tribune, (4) The Jackson-Clarion Ledger. How many more do you wish to see?--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 01:04, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
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- That is incorrect, there is no such guarantee. You won't find any such policy on WP:N. We cannot assume there are sources unless they are provided. --neonwhite user page talk 00:30, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- If it gets 719,000 hits then you're pretty much guarenteed to get at least a few reliable sources. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 00:27, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- Amazon is an online store not a verifiable publication. None of those verify anything that is written in the article. A trivial mention of the term in an article does not prove that this exists as a notable genre and gives no information that could be added to this article. Coverage needs to be 'significant' according to guidelines. --neonwhite user page talk 01:53, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- Your missing the point. The refs show that the term "Garage Punk" is widely used. Of course Amazon isn't a verifable publication, but it is a big well known company, and if they use that term ipso facto it's common term that easily suffices for Wikipedia notability. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 02:34, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- They do not show that this is a notable term or genre. Nothing from amazon can be used as evidence of notability. Notability guidelines require significant second party articles about a subject. Extremely minor sub-genres don't usually deserve a seperate article, simply becasue there is so little written about them that the article would be a permanent stub with little point of context. It's common sense to merge them to a main genre. --neonwhite user page talk 03:16, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- Please use common sense, if the term is used all over the place, it's notable. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 10:59, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- They do not show that this is a notable term or genre. Nothing from amazon can be used as evidence of notability. Notability guidelines require significant second party articles about a subject. Extremely minor sub-genres don't usually deserve a seperate article, simply becasue there is so little written about them that the article would be a permanent stub with little point of context. It's common sense to merge them to a main genre. --neonwhite user page talk 03:16, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- Your missing the point. The refs show that the term "Garage Punk" is widely used. Of course Amazon isn't a verifable publication, but it is a big well known company, and if they use that term ipso facto it's common term that easily suffices for Wikipedia notability. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 02:34, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- hits on google is not a criteria for notability, if a term has no second party reliable sources then it isn't notable. Please read WP:N fopr more info. --neonwhite user page talk 00:05, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
*Redirect to Garage rock. Seems to be a very minor sub genre of it. --neonwhite user page talk 00:05, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. Don't "guess" that there's nothing out there. Look for it. I've added a couple of refs to the article, which should be sufficient.--Michig (talk) 09:38, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep The references that Michig added to the article prove notability. Bláthnaid 12:00, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. Established genre, well constructed article. Ros0709 (talk) 13:24, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep, easily passes notability guidelines. --BelovedFreak 13:23, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep The article has been improved significantly and this can probably be closed now per WP:SNOWBALL. --neonwhite user page talk 14:59, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
