Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gamestah

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. There are claims made below that the site is notable because it will be featured by a show on ABC, etc. The article even purports to have links which show this. Thus it would seem that the site qualifies under WP:WEB; if these links delivered as promised, this would be a "keep". However, when one follows these links, they do not back up the claims. For example, there is a link to abc.net.au which looks promising. But if one follows that link, one finds no mention of Gamestah. Moreover, there is no page on the ABC site which mentions Gamestah, yet several hundred which mention this upcoming show "Good Game". It strikes me as unlikely than no page on this show mentions its debut topic. Long story short, although there is a veneer of notability, the links do not show what they claim to, and there is yet to be a single link in the article or in this debate which mentions Gamestah (aside, of course, from the links to the site itself). This veneer of notability is quite thin, it seems. --- Deville (Talk) 03:26, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gamestah

This article fails WP:WEB based on the research I have done. The Alexa result is 2,196,569, and the first several pages of Google hits reveal no promising sources. Erechtheus 19:24, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

  • I've removed the website details, it's now just a standard Wiki entry. In regards to Erechtheus' research, I can only speculate about Alexa's stats, because Google paints a much brighter picture. And I don't know how you could miss the top two links when search for 'gamestah' in Google, they clearly point to Gamestah. --Alfreido 16:08, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
    • We're looking for "multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself," per WP:WEB. That's what might make this site notable. Nobody is disputing that the site exists. The issue is whether it is notable enough for inclusion in this project. Erechtheus 18:56, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete - I realize we're badly in need of more articles about gaming websites, but unfortunately Wikipedia's unfair WP:WEB criteria continue to stand in the way of justice. My Alt Account 09:58, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Out of curiosity, would the fact that we are going to be mentioned on a new gaming-related TV show, Good Game on ABC2 (Australia), and the fact we have been mentioned in PC Powerplay, a gaming magazine in Australia be able to prove our notability? --Alfreido 15:40, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
    • It sounds like you're a source short to me, but if you already had been covered on TV, that would be multiple independent coverage assuming the two bits were about different things. The question would then be whether the coverage was trivial. Somehing along the lines of saying that the website exists would be trivial. A more in depth coverage would likely not be trivial. Erechtheus 17:39, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep - I have edited the Gamestah entry, and believe it is now notable. While the WP:WEB criteria state multiple sources, it does mention it is a rough outline. Coverage on a mainstream national television network is about as notable as you can get for an organisation of this type! Add to that one of Australia's best-selling PC gaming print-media magazines and I think that should satisfy the WP:WEB crteria. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though, as I've never looked into the WikiPedia project before - just browsed articles. Anyhow, the Gamestah entry certainly seems more notable than Gay Nigger Association of America for example ;) Keep up the good work with the Wikipedia project, and I look forward to hearing your opinions! 59.167.95.27 03:37, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep - I want to second User:59.167.95.27's views that the Gamestah article should be kept. The fact that Gamestah is going to be mentioned on ABC2's new show, Good Game, is definately a point of notability. Note: I, User:Rowan Moore, am the creator of the article and therefore this should be taken into account. --cheese-cube 02:50, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.