Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gal Rasché

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 11:15, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gal Rasché

Reason in a nutshell: This is in all likelihood a paid translation of an autobiography of a person with no verifiable accomplishments.

This article appeared on multiple major Wikipedias on the same day in precisely the same form and shape (compare de.wiki, pl.wiki, fr.wiki, hu.wiki, nl.wiki, sk.wiki). Other than de.wiki where the text originated, on some Wikipedias there was a substub on this person prior to that day, but it did not establish the notability of the character other than by having several interwiki links (which is probably how the substub eluded deletion).

On most Wikipedias, the translation appeared as the only major contribution of a new user named Djiggy or IP 84.113.1.108. The author tagged the edit as "translation from german", even though on some Wikipedias, he explicitly said he can't speak the language he supposedly translated the article to (see userboxes: hu:user:Djiggy)

The person described in the article is herself ungooglable, so is her "proper" name ([1]). It is also impossible to find any references to the international prize she won in Yugoslavia - see here, which makes one wonder how notable could this throphy be.

All in all, it seems like a promotional article of a person that does not seem to have any verifiable claim to notability.

I'm a sysop on pl.wiki, making a guest appearance to share our findings with others. Our AfD for this article is here. lcamtuf 13:32, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

• • Comment Regarding your comment that "It is also impossible to find any references to the international prize she won in Yugoslavia". The link to Interfer 99 was also posted in the article -> Interfer 99

• DELETE - notability issue 4.18GB 13:38, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, astroturfing. There's only one mention of her name in Russian (apart of Wikipedia clones) and it lists her among several others and gives no futher details on her. See also AfD for Anatoli Vassiljevitsch Ivanov (also placed into several Wikipedias). Pavel Vozenilek 15:27, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
  • See also activity of user "Galrasche" on Russian Wiki [2], editing her own and Ivanov's article. Slovak and Czech Wiki notified, respective their AfD process started. Pavel Vozenilek 15:43, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
    • User Galrasche is my former nickname--Djiggy 23:07, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom QuiteUnusual 18:11, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Sorry, but i've posted this article in all this languages -> because my firends have done this work for me to translate this article to all this languages -> translation from german (thi article is already since a quite long time in german wikipedia, and there was already a pretty large disussion about a deletion of this article, it will be very sad if my job and this of my friends will be rejected. And one more time, i dont know how should i verify all this articles now, after all these AfDs are starting to roll out on all wikipedias. It has been already verified on german wikipedia, and guys it took me a pretty much of time to verify it there. --Djiggy 22:28, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
• about a google link -> you will find more links about interfer if you are looking like this -> [3]--Djiggy and ybout gal rasche like this -> [4] 22:48, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: as far as your articles are considered, there was a single AfD on German Wikipedia, and the result was delete, not keep (here). After this voting you first attempted to re-create the article under the same name, which resulted in speedy deletion ([5]), and then the same day you posted it under a slightly different title, which wasn't noticed. There was no voting on Gal Rasché, as far as I can tell. I managed to find AfD for this particular article under a different name: see here. The result was indeed keep, my apologies.
    As for verifiability - the first URL you've provided finds a couple of hits for the festival itself, but past the first pages, it's mostly a bunch of instances of mistyped "interfere" and hyphenated "interfer-ence" on various English-language pages. The other search is identical to the one provided in my original submission, except that it includes copies of the article on various Wikipedias. On a personal note, given the timeframe of your edits on various Wikipedias and the quality and nearly identical appearance of the translations you've posted, I have a hard time believing the explanation you've provided - although that's just my sentiment, and I can be wrong. --lcamtuf 00:21, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment I know that there are very few references for Gal Rasché and it will be very hard to verify this article. But it is also a quit unusual profession for a woman and you cannot compare her with sombody like Claudio Abbado, Riccardo Muti or Seiji Ozawa but i think it is a fact enough to keep this article. There are also enough print articles about her in different newspapers. If you want i can scan them and upload somewhere. Here is an article announcing her past concert in Musikverein in Vienna. --Djiggy 02:22, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Delete per WP:SPAM, WP:V and WP:NN. all the Ghits referred to are either wiki mirrors or to events listings. First attempt at international astroturfing I've seen, so far. Must nip this practice in the bud. Ohconfucius 04:56, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom, per Ohconfucious. Montco 15:04, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nominator, this looks to be spam. Yamaguchi先生 05:13, 4 November 2006

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.