Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gag snob

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was MERGE to Gag (BDSM). Owen× ☎ 18:53, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Gag_snob

This doesn't seem to be a term in widespread use - only 127 hits on Google for example. The page appears to have been set up purely to rant about people who make such comments about gags on discussion boards. Mdwh 04:28, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

• Neutral - Sorry, I really don't know enough about the subject area to know if this is made up or the real deal. We need to get some fetishist in here before we decide on the article. --Cyde Weys _talk^contribs 06:36, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
• Merge to Gag (BDSM). I am somewhat familiar with BDSM terminology but hardly an expert. I have never seen this term before but it looks valid. — JIP | Talk 07:22, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
• Merge per above Renata3 00:27, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete Never heard this term before, with almost 20 years of SM experience. This seems to be a joke by someone with a POV. --Krich 00:58, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
• Merge to Gag (BDSM), lest we have paddle snob, horseplay snob, etc. Ronabop 09:43, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
• Merge per Ronabop. Stifle 10:24, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
• Merge This term is used on forums. Bedroom Bondage's forum used it (Lorelei mentioned she was not a gag snob), and I see it used a lot in "small time" forums, such as AVGDID and Brian's Page (brianspage.com). It's common enough that I've seen it a lot. And yes, I am a bondage fetishist, so I am the type of person who would have experience.
  • comment This unsigned comment was by 69.248.236.62 (talk), (the only person ever to write or edit the Gag_snob page). I searched and could not find any mention of it on any forum, but even so - the fact that one or two individuals have used a made-up terminology does not make it ligitimate or note-worthy. It still appears to be a localized made-up term that almost no one in SM has ever heard or used. --Krich 15:52, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
• Merge I would assume. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22gag+snob%22 yields plenty of results. Note the contexts its used in fit what the article describes, so I would imagine the article is telling the truth. --CGally81 20:07, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

I wouldn't call that plenty - I've certainly seen pages with many hundreds of results being proposed for deletion (can't remember off hand if they actually were). It really isn't that hard to get a hundred or so results at all - I mean, a pseuodnym I use and is unique to me gets 647 results, but I don't think that's worthy of an article! A piece of software I wrote gets 1,570 results, but it's yet to get a Wikipedia mention let alone an article (and rightly so). (Of course, Google hits isn't the only way of rating how widespread a term is, but I've not yet been persuaded of any other reason why this term is notable.)

Also to be exact, although the term exists and may be worthy of documenting, the information in the article is certainly incorrect (the article takes the way it would be used as a derogatory term, and presents that as fact - and claims like "has a difficult time being aroused by bondage imagery unless it contains a gag" look just like insults). I don't mind if the article stays - if so I'd delete most of what's there and document its usage as a derogatory term - but thought I'd propose for deletion here as it doesn't seem to be used much at all. Mdwh 20:11, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.