Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/GBO Trusted Enterprise Award

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete. Deathphoenix ʕ 16:57, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GBO Trusted Enterprise Award

No Vote THis article was speedy deleted but then a hangon tag was placed, and another user wanted more time for considering this article. I've brought it to AFD, we'll see how it does. J.J.Sagnella 07:16, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as promotional material, and no GHits. - Tangotango 08:34, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
• Change of vote to delete zero google hits, maybe a hoax J.J.Sagnella 09:08, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete at best, this is an ad for GBO, assuming they exist. Even if they do, nn. Tychocat 09:24, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, advertising. --Coredesat 12:30, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy Delete. It reads like an blurb sent with an invitation. Notabality, not encyclopedic in style or referencing. Interlingua 19:41, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
• Merge with the author's now-deleted other article and rewrite to Wikipedia's standards of notability and neutrality. Explain actions to new user. If article is deleted, give the writer a brief, tactful explanation.

The article's creator, User:Pingfan, is brand new. He created both GBO Trusted Enterprise Award and Global Business Opportunity Forum Singapore 2006. I welcomed Pingfan to Wikipedia and made some notes on his talk page about Wikipedia policies and the changes he might want to look at making to both articles. Both articles are/were very commercial. The award page doesn't address notability at all. The now missing forum article noted 10,000 attendees and senior level government officials from around the region attended (that should have at least caught someone's eye).

I track the new users I welcome for a few days, which is how I became aware of the speedy deletion tags. Both articles were tagged for speedy deletion by User:Average Earthman using an obsolete tag, {{delete}} with no explanation given, notwithstanding the tag's comment: "Note to the person adding this template: Please consider supplying a reason for deletion using {{db}} or one of the other speedy deletion templates, instead of using this template."). I put {{hangon}} tags on both articles and put my reasons on the talk pages (1 and 2). You can read my comments; I thought they were fairly reasonable. The only response I got was on one page: "Okay you can have your way. I've listed it for afd." No other comments from anyone else have been listed on either Pingfan's talk page or the article talk pages. Notwithstanding the {{hangon}} tag, Global Business Opportunity Forum Singapore 2006 was deleted anyway by an admin, User:MarkGallagher.

The forum's web site indicates it's associated with the "Global Entrepolis @ Singapore (GES)". Google hits:

"GBO Trusted Enterprise Award": none

"Global Business Opportunity Forum": 18 (only 9 unique)

"Global Entrepolis": 22,100

These are English language hits only; the sites also have material in Chinese.

A brief search reveals the overall Global Entrepolis show attracts Singapore's prime minister as well as cabinet-level ministers from surrounding countries. Attendance last year was 14,000; the show has grown by about 2,000 people every year. Wikipedia treats tradeshows, conferences and forums inconsistently. For auto shows alone, Wikipedia has articles on 20 shows, including the Nashville-area only, grandly-named Nashville International Auto and Truck Show. Some other major shows, such as Globalcomm, the biggest US telecommunications show, don't have articles.

Other:

Wikipedia:Etiquette: "Try to avoid deleting things as a matter of principle. When you amend and edit, it is remarkable how you might see something useful in what was said. Most people have something useful to say. That includes you. Deletion upsets people and makes them feel they have wasted their time: consider moving their text to a sub-directory of their user pages instead (e.g. saying not quite the right place for it but so they can still use it): much less provocative."

Wikipedia:Resolving disputes: "The first resort in resolving almost any conflict is to discuss the issue on a talk page."

Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion: "Users nominating a page for speedy deletion should specify which criteria the page meets; it would also be considerate to notify the original author — remember, everyone was new once."

Procedure for Administrators: "Admins should specify the deletion criteria in their edit summary and should notify the article's creator about the deletion, where applicable."

Please do NOT bite the newcomers: All 11 bullet points are relevant.

--A. B. 21:09, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.