Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Funckarma (second nomination)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect with the nomination withdrawn. T Rex | talk 23:56, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Funckarma

This band does not meet WP:MUSIC

  • Has had a charted hit on any national music chart, in at least one large or medium-sized country There is no evidence of this on the article page.
  • Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one large or medium-sized country. Doesn't look as if they have an album that meets either of the two.
  • Has gone on an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one large or medium-sized country, reported in notable and verifiable sources. Once again no evidence that they have. If so it must be a notable and verifiable source.
  • Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e. an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable). Well they have never been on a major label. They have been on a few indie labels, most of them not being notable.
  • Has been featured in multiple non-trivial published works in reliable and reputable media (excludes things like school newspapers (although university newspapers are usually fine), personal blogs, etc.) Doesn't seem to be any evidence of this after doing a google search.
  • Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable; note that it is often most appropriate to use redirects in place of articles on side projects, early bands and such. The band is two brothers who have been in this band only.
  • Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or the local scene of a city (or both, as in British hip hop); note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability. Could be possible, I haven't found any sources saying that they have.
  • Has won a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno or Mercury Music Award. They haven't wond any major award.
  • Has won or placed in a major music competition. According to their article they haven't been in any major music competitition.
  • Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g. a theme for a network television show. (But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that page.) If they did have one of these then it would be best to have them redirect to that work of media.
  • Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network. This needs to be verified if possible.
  • Has been the subject of a half hour or longer broadcast on a national radio network. Once again a google search doesn't show that they have been part of a broadcast on a national radio network. T REXspeak 20:43, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
  • previous nom T REXspeak 00:11, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per extended nom. The JPStalk to me 21:05, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Um, this band was just nominated on October 31. See previous AFD Why is this being nominated again? I'm dubious of the nomination without even mentioning the prior discussion. It was rather short, and I can see an RFV, but not this. FrozenPurpleCube 21:40, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Scratch that, it wasn't a short period, I misread the dates. Merely a small number of votes. Sorry, but you really should have pointed out that it was a second nomination. FrozenPurpleCube 21:43, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
The person who closed it told me to nominate it again because I felt the points made by the people voting keep weren't valid. Also I thought the title would give it away. T REXspeak 21:51, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
And when making a second nomination, you should bring up prior nominations. Especially when you do it so very quickly afterwards . Given that you made such a lenghty proposal, a single line to say "This article was previously nominated here" would not have been a problem, would it? Consider it a courtesy to your fellow Wikipedians. FrozenPurpleCube 22:58, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
  • weak keep due to them having released on Skam Records, of which I've never heard, but wiki has an article so I'm assuming some notability. Jcuk 22:47, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep we've just had a discussion on this. Catchpole 08:00, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
  • I felt the arguements in the first nomination were not very strong ones and there were only 3 people who discussed it. The person who closed it told me to nominate it again because they didn't want to reopen a closed afd. T REXspeak 19:42, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
  • I'm saying Keep again. I appreciate that this is a greatly superior nomination to the first and a highly detailed one but Afd is not clean-up and renominating the next day does not give any opportunity for this to take place. I stand by my notation of the GHits for the duo - a lack is often cited as a reason for deletion so it seems inconsistant to disregard a significant quantity (NB - I am not suggesting that the nominator is guilty of this inconsistancy, this is more a remark on double standards often present in Afd). More to the point, Discogs - accepted in WP:MUSIC as a "good" source - lists them as members of Shadow Huntaz, who have released 2 albums on a notable label (Skam Records) - 4 if you count the instrumental versions, which I don't. A Google search confirms that the information on Discogs is correct and that the brothers were members for both of the relevant releases, although some sources simply list them as producers. I shall add it to the article (I had hoped for a longer window in which to do this, but there you go....) as this role does not appear to be covered. If I had time, I might be more inclined to do an article for Shadow Huntaz (although, perhaps ironically, they have fewer GHits than Funckarma) and copy the relevant information. Ac@osr 20:38, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Hmm they seem to be notable as Shadow Huntaz but not as Funckarma. Should they be kept as Shadow Huntaz and a redirect from Funckarma to SH? T REXspeak 01:20, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
  • If you'll give me time to do a SH article, I will include the information from this one and a redirect could be put into place. Ac@osr 10:44, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Sounds good. T REXspeak 19:48, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
    • OK, basic Shadow Huntaz article now up, I'll add the discographical information later on. I would now support a redirect to this feature. Ac@osr 13:01, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.