Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fudokan
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete. --Luigi30 (Taλk) 16:36, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fudokan
- Non-notable, full of POV, pictures are NOT fair use, unless the user is the owner of Fudokan Serbia, in which case this may be a vanity page.RogueNinja 14:42, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
- What are you saying about my club. Those are pictures i can use to put on wikipedia. The licence was given by my masters. - Snake bgd 15:01, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
- Comment - both of these editors are disputing over adding this article to Shotokan - Alison☺ 15:34, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
- No, neither of us wants to add this article to shotokan. What you are probably thinking of is that he wants to add it to the major styles of karate template, one example of which is in shotokan. Based on the fact that I have no heard of this style in 14 years of training, and that google has less than 30,000 entries for it, I think it is certainly not a major style. That has nothing to do with the article itself though.RogueNinja 17:17, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Then it OK you think that this article is not major styles of karate. Ok I don't think in same way. I will not add any more this article to the major schools, but then you will not erased this article at all because it is a karate school. That is also for my other article Heian Oi-Kumi, Taiji Shodan and Kaminari
- Just because something is a karate school does not make it notable.RogueNinja 13:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- Then it OK you think that this article is not major styles of karate. Ok I don't think in same way. I will not add any more this article to the major schools, but then you will not erased this article at all because it is a karate school. That is also for my other article Heian Oi-Kumi, Taiji Shodan and Kaminari
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Snake bgd 10:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
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- This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT 12:58, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
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- My bad, thank you.RogueNinja 13:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
- Besides having many critera from McDojo (forgotten katas primarily), Snake is not consistent with his facts. He claimed on my talk page that the katas were made in the 19th century, but several of them are named after living people.
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- Sorry people but i don't unerstand what you are saying, maybe Taiji Shodan, Nidan and Sandan, are named by Taiji Kase but Heian Oi-Kumi and Kaminari are not. No matter I will proved that this school of karate is fourth in the world.
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Snake bgd 12:10, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. -- Neier 01:25, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. No significant context or real assertion of notability; no third-party attribution. The Google test doesn't seem appropriate here. Thirty thousand hits is actually quite a lot, but they seem to be mostly advertising. I couldn't find any reliable sources. Dekimasuよ! 02:25, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Avi 04:06, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete The article makes no attempt to indicate notability. There's no indication of how many schools/dojos teach Fudokan, how many practitioners there are or what sets it apart from the many offshoot martial arts of the last 30 years. Add this to the beastly mess that the article is, and I can't see much of a reason to keep it. Caknuck 05:03, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Comment if this gets deleted someone ought to take a close look at Ilija Jorga as well. - Iridescenti (talk to me!) 09:09, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
- Comment. I'm not sure how regular martial artists measure notability among the "many offshoot martial arts," but in the Ghits I see sites from Serbia, Bulgaria, Hungary, Rumania, Italy, France, Germany, Switzerland, Poland, the US, Russia, and more, which is enough to convince me that the topic meets my notability standards. However, I don't see anything from independent, third-party sources about Fudokan. --Groggy Dice T | C 04:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
