Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fužine Bridge
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep. I've looked at all of these bridge nominations that remain in "old discussions", and I'm closing them all as keep. A list, or merge, is for the talkpages. Please see my talk if you have any questions. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 18:59, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Fužine Bridge
An unimportant bridge over Ljubljanica. Eleassar my talk 12:32, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Keep - all these stub articles were only created 4 days ago. It's a bit premature to decide they'll never be improved. - Denimadept (talk) 16:45, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- To expand on what I think is going on here, we need more information about each of these bridges in their articles. WHAT are these bridges?
- How long are they
- What sort of construction are they?
- arch
- suspension
- cantilever
- whatever
- When where they built?
- Who built them?
- Why were they built?
- What precedes them (any previous bridges on that site? Maybe a ferry?)
- What context are they in? Any history? Battles or other events?
- What kind of effort went into them?
- Provide a picture! Or several!
- What are their coordinates (though I like to do that one! :-D)?
- What makes them worth an article?
- It's not their location that's a problem; see Nový Most for a good example in the same area, and the Danube River bridges are currently the subjects of a list in progress. The more you can put into an article, the more references, the more data in general, the less susceptible to an AfD the article is. - Denimadept (talk) 17:04, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Comment. The fundamental question is: what makes this bridge worth an article? I'm from Ljubljana, know it well, and think nothing makes it. Anyone is welcome to prove otherwise. --Eleassar my talk 12:31, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
- Keep per Denimadept. All bridges crossing a major river in the center of a large national capital city are important. --Oakshade (talk) 23:28, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
- Comment. This bridge is not located in the center (much less Center) of the city at all.[1] --Eleassar my talk 10:55, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
- Comment I see what you mean. It looks like it might have some nice guard rails, but otherwise I don't see anything on the satellite imagery. If this bridge, and the others, is to be considered "of interest", we need more information in the article. Tell us more about this bridge, as I said above. Include a nice picture, perhaps. - Denimadept (talk) 14:17, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
- I can expand on this. I've created a number of these "crossings" lists. I'll pick one to use as an example: List of crossings of the Taunton River. You can see that I've documented the first few bridges (first 3, really, but included one demolished and one under construction), but not nearly all of them. Someone else came along and made another list based on mine, List of crossings of the Assonet River. None of those bridges have links, note. On the other hand, in my first burst of documentation, I started creating articles for all the bridges on the Connecticut River, including Route 10 bridge, Northfield, Massachusetts and US Route 3 Bridge over the Connecticut River. I'm not big on AfD, you might say, at least for bridges! - Denimadept (talk) 14:26, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
- I'll try to find anything useful in a local library in the following days but don't expect miracles. These lists seem much more reasonable imo. --Eleassar my talk 14:39, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
- I'm currently working with others on the List of crossings of the Danube River, if you're interested. I'm reformatting it, as you can see. - Denimadept (talk) 14:56, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Strong delete It would have been decent if somebody had told me about this. I stubbed a few of them believing some SLovene users could expand them but according to Eleassar it isn't notable so delete ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 15:58, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
- Can we request that they build a nicer bridge so we can document it? :-D - Denimadept (talk) 16:12, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
That's the bridge on the highway ring, right? Out of those nominated in the series, this would maybe be the most noteworthy but without proper references it's hard to say. The best solution would indeed be a list of bridges with photos. --Tone 16:15, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
- An interesting article, just in time... --Tone 16:39, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, judging from the pictures, there's some good stuff there. Needs a translation, though. Nice arch bridge, the one with all the columns looks neat, the one with the walkways going up and down and what look like turned pillars in stone is good too. MOAR INFO! - Denimadept (talk) 16:53, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
The one with the pillars is Čevljarski most, the one up and down is Tromostovje and the one with the arch is the Dragon Bridge. The others are Prule, Moste, Šentjakob and Šempeter bridges. --Tone 17:25, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Comment. No, this bridge is not located on the highway. I have provided a link where you can see it.[2] The article you have provided is a copyvio of what has already been found.[3] I am very much for the articles Čevljarski most, Tromostovje and Dragon Bridge etc. but some others are simply not worth to have an article. I think it is best to have a list of bridges with photos, as has been proposed. --Eleassar my talk 18:45, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
- Interesting idea to have a list of crossings where one column might be small pictures. Hm.
| Crossing | Location | Built | Coordinates | Image |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ponte Romana Sertã | somewhere over the rainbow | 120 CE |  |
- Denimadept (talk) 21:22, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. Simply put, fails reliable sources, notability and verifiable. The onus is on the article to meet guidelines and not for editors to expect that it meets the guidelines. Then delete the template or replace it with one that does not link to the deleted bridge articles. Existence is not the same as notability. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:23, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
