Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fruit Brute

This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was KEEP. dbenbenn | talk 23:12, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fruit Brute

nn. Bart133 (t) 17:25, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• Keep disagree. It's a real cereal, part of a famous and long-running line, and understandably could be looked up by people who saw it in Pulp Fiction and wondered if it was real or not. note There's a little bit of innacuracy in the article, which I'll correct in a minute or two. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 18:17, Feb 4, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, somewhat notable - 1410 Google hits, article needs expansion. Megan1967 01:57, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Doh! Keep. —RaD Man (talk) 04:36, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Comment I have added to the original article since VfD. Fruit Brute was also seen in another Tarantino film Reservoir Dogs. Megan1967 05:00, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• KEEP you've got to be freaking kidding me with this non notable crap. 1) thats not a valid VfD reasoning 2) this cereal has definately been around longer than the submitter (a 6th grader) has been alive 3) has sold more than 20 million boxes since its inception. God this makes me feel old but I was eating this cereal at the breakfast table before you the submitter were sperm.  ALKIVAR™ 06:20, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • There goes the neighborhood! —RaD Man (talk) 06:33, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Seriously, wtf? CryptoDerk 06:23, Feb 5, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Evil Monkey∴Hello 06:24, Feb 5, 2005 (UTC)

Comment. When I listed this on vfd, it opened with the words "It is a ceral. Hi yum yum in my tum tum." Bart133 (t) 18:32, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

don't lie, it makes you look even more juvenile, this diff clearly shows you started it with "nn". Learn to face up to when you've goofed, it will go a long way in your life.  ALKIVAR™ 20:38, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)My bad, I was looking at the wrong history.  ALKIVAR™ 03:55, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

he isn't lying and you ought to apologize. The edit history of Fruit Brute clearly shows that at 17:25 4 Feb, when this VfD was opened, the entire text of the article was: It is a ceral. Hi yum yum in my tum tum. Fruit Brute: is one of a line of monster-themed breakfast cereals produced by General Mills. It is also the name of the cereal's mascot, a variant of Frankenstein's monster. Other cereals in the line include Count Chocula, Boo Berry, Fruit Brute, and Yummy Mummy. (Fruit Brute and Yummy Mummy are no longer sold in retail stores.) --BM 01:46, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

What Bart133 doesn't mention is that silliness aside, this article was a valid stub to begin with. A valid stub on a culturally notable breakfast cereal, something that many people conceivably have and will search for on Wikipedia. I think the 6th grader deletionist should be the one apologizing here. —RaD Man (talk) 03:17, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

and its not as if this is the first wiki article to have nonsense added/vandalism either. we dont delete everything thats been vandalized do we?  ALKIVAR™ 03:55, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• Keep. - Chotchki
• Keep, way. Wyss 22:43, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Bogus VFD.--Centauri 23:21, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• keep. vfd is nn. Yuckfoo 01:17, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Not encyclopedic. General Mills spends millions on marketing its sugary cereals for kids (and apparently on product placements in movies); so everybody has been inundated since childhood with a gazillion ads on these products. That does not make Count Chocula, Fruit Brute, Boo Berry, etc topics for a general encyclopedia. Mention in articles about General Mills, Cereals, Marketing to Children, etc, or a variety of other topics: yes. Separate article on each brand of cereal: no. --BM 01:52, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Thankfully your sense of myopia is not contagious. Otherwise, Wikipedia would be fucked. —RaD Man (talk) 05:38, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
    • I wish it was, then we'd be spared all those bloody awful adverts pushing sugar loaded cereals to small children, who then want to eat huge amounts of them and become hyperactive and fat at the same time. Average Earthman 11:40, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
      • POV PUSHER!!! but seriously, although i personally agree with you, I dont think this is the platform to make a statement like that. While we may question their motives, we cannot argue the fact that because of these overwhelming advertising campaigns that these are not notable. (Your also welcome to make a NPOV statment on General Mills regarding their targeting of sugar products to children).  ALKIVAR™ 22:26, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
      • It is silly to say that something shouldn't be kept because it's over specific as long as it's at least somewhat relevent (ie not an etry about a particular person's LiveJournal) the great thing ABOUT Wikipedia is that it's full of highly specific entries. Besides, I don't think cereal is the greatest threat facing the nation's children today. User:Jakek101 4:02, 8 Feb 2005
• Keep. Notable breakfast cereal sold to millions of people. Please don't forget wikiquette in making your comments.Capitalistroadster 07:58, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and everyone stop taking vfd so damn seriously. Calm down and stop insulting people. Gamaliel 22:00, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Comment Gamaliel's remark is spot on, I must say I think these sugared cereals are horrid and usually not a good idea to make available to kids but that's not a reason to delete the article. This mark was probably eaten by hundreds of thousands of children and its marketing aspect is still culturally visible (Pulp Fiction being an example). Wyss 00:47, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• Keep It's a fantastic obscure reference that one day will be on family guy and people will come here curious about what it is.

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