Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frizbeer

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete. --Fang Aili 說嗎? 01:14, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Frizbeer

Non-notable drinking game, 11 google hits, 3 hits for Frizbeer game. Accurizer 00:43, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

It's a cult game, there aren't going to be websites about it or companies selling frizbeer equipment--Plokloon 00:58, 2 May 2006 (UTC)


  • Do Not Delete.This game sound way more legitimate than other drinking games found on this very server such as Buffulo and Bizu-Bizu. For people in favor of deletion, I'd like you to please explain what makes this game any less valid than those stupid memory games that no one likes. Also, if you dont think this game is cool than youlikely arent cool' ...so once again i'd like you to look inside yourself and realize that you spend your time looking around wikipedia giving opinions on matters you are completly ignorant to...—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.198.205.119 (talk • contribs) .

How can it be made up if there is an extensive list of rules and how to play? And there are common variations to the game? Just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean it's "Made up stuff."--Plokloon 02:17, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

I recognize the fact that you doubters are unfamiliar with frizbeer, and I would venture to say you are older than the targeted age for this game. It's popularity is growing exponentially and there is no reason it should not be permitted on Wikipedia. Does this need to be a "household" drinking game before it earns a spot on Wikipedia, or can this up and coming game continue to spread in popularity with the aid of Wikipedia? Give it a chance before you judge.--Elrez 02:33, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete, Elrez comment is frightening. Wikipedia should not make something notable, it should already be notable enough to be included here. -- ReyBrujo 02:37, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
    • It's not frightening. Elrez, why your comment appears to have given ReBrujo white hair is because Wikipedia is not intended to be several things, among them a "publisger of original thought or original inventions", or a "soapbox or vehicle for advertising". By stating that you wish to spread the popularity of this game via Wikipedia is a violation of both of these, which are part of the "What Wikipedia Is Not" policy. If it can be proven that externally verifiable information concering this game can be provided through the use of what the Wikipedia community considers to be reliable, third-party sources (such as magazine article, newspaper reviews, or any published material that has been written by an objective professional with no connection to the game or its creators (ie an external observer), then it will no longer violate the "What Wikipedia Is Not" policy and will stand a greater chance of inclusion. Unfortunately, at this time, that isn't the case. Good luck spreading the game, and hopefully we'll see you back here in the future, but to put it bluntly: "You become notable, then you get on Wikipedia:. -- Saberwyn 03:55, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
    • I would like to see the "externally verifiable" info concerning the site for the drinking game who shit...[[1]]—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.198.205.119 (talk • contribs) .
    • If you don't think it meets Wikipedia's inclusion policies, nominate it for deletion, where it will be considered in a similar discussion, on its own merits. -- Saberwyn 04:34, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, non-notable drinking game. JIP | Talk 07:58, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. I don't even need to look at the article: whenever someone votes "Do Not Delete", or someone says "give it a chance before you judge", or someone says "let this up-and-coming thing continue to spread", the article is certain to be worthless. — Haeleth Talk 08:55, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, above comments make it clear that this is not notable. —Stormie 10:25, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete the lack of Google hits and notoriety are enough to delete this, but everyone's ocmments above just seal the deal. -- Kicking222 16:59, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Do not Delete Why aren't all of you on the Buffalo Wikipedia site complaining about that. There is no difference between this page and other drinking games' pages. It's almost impossible to get a source on this game, are we supposed to look in the local newspaper and go under the drinking section? Just because it hasn't been documented doesn't mean that it hasn't had a strong effect on the social scene. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.179.127.106 (talk • contribs) .
  • Delete nn; I'm with User:Haeleth all the way. Angus McLellan (Talk) 18:08, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as unverified. If you can find a reliable source that mentions this game, then add a reference to the article and I'll reconsider my vote. If you think other pages should be deleted, then by all means add them to WP:AFD (instructions are on that page) and we'll consider them. --Tango 19:07, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

DO NOT DELETE! go outside and play this game for yourself. this is a great game, with exceptional morals, and life long friends will be made while playing this game. Plus, all of the people that are against this game obviously are in need of both friends and fun. p.s. dear Accurizer and all of the other posters that are complaining of lack of popularity; you obviously haven't got many friends, and are not in with "the crowd" because this game is widely popular, and will soon be played around the world. dont you want this on Wikipedia? it is a craze that is already happening. in fact i heard that someone is writing a novel on it.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.198.194.84 (talk • contribs)

Please give me a link to the policy that states "It's fun" as a reason to have an article on something. If it does become played around the world, or someone does write a novel on it, then maybe we can have an article on it then, but Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. --Tango 20:01, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Buffalo drinking game scores 1.7m ghits to the <300 for Frizbeer. Just zis Guy you know? 21:54, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. --TorriTorri 19:29, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete It's been a long time since "vote against me and you're not cool" has worked on me. --Bachrach44 19:31, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete wikipedia is not a soapbox. Kr0nnik 21:02, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete all drinking games whose popularity is "growing exponentially". Exponential growth is impossible for an established and notable game. Just zis Guy you know? 21:47, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
    • DONT: I think you guys are getting caught up in the name frisbeer not being on google, this game does exist and is very popular it has many variations though...search frisbee drinking game on google you'll get 1.4million hits. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.198.205.119 (talk • contribs) .
  • Strong Delete It's not notable! All you "don't delete it 'cause it's totally fun" commenters--go make a website of your own about Frizbeer. Come back and create a new article (after this one is inevitably deleted) when Frizbeer has garnered verifiable attention by reliable sources so that it meets Wikipedia:Notability. Sheesh. In the meantime, tag all those other drinking games that "don't deserve" articles for deletion. -- Scientizzle 18:39, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Have you ever drank beer before i suggest you crack one and relax...games make drinking more fun, im not trying to get other games off this site im just trying to say it looks like this one fits in with the rest of those stupid games... obviously the drinking games catergory isn't exactly the most serious catergory on wikipedia. so until you start policing the other games you cant say a game like Who Shit is any more valid than this one —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.198.205.119 (talk • contribs) .
You're getting very close to violating WP:CIVIL. Please don't make personal comments. If you want the article to stay, by all means defend it, but comments about the individuals voting against it are not acceptable. --Tango 19:58, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

I searched "frisbee drinking games" on Google and came across more than a dozen games that have rules either identical or undeniably similar to those listed on this page. I think it is the word 'Frizbeer' that is getting everyone so uptight. Chances are that when the "houston skyline" was listed on wikipedia, the actual name was not as popular but I sure as hell bet the drink combination was wildly popular.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Latani6 (talk • contribs) .

This article is an informative article explaining to people how to play a very fun and popular drinking game. Drinking games are like ancient oral history; you're not going to find out how to play them in the newspaper, but from friends and family. Wikipedia is a free online encyclopedia, which allows anyone to get better acquainted with the world they live in. What separates Wikipedia from other encyclopedias is that it allows anyone to edit it, which in turn allows people to learn more about local histories than ever before. There are no pranks or jokes in this article, by deleting this article all that is happening is people are not being updated on the current social situation.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Plokloon (talk • contribs) .

It would be nice if it worked like that, but we can't allow people to just add anything if there's no way to verify it. We can't just take your word for it, we need concrete evidence. Otherwise we'd end up with more hoax articles than real ones. It's not ideal, but that's the way things are. If you can't provide verification, the article has to go. If there is evidence of it under a different name, prehaps you should request that the article be moved instead, but it's not going to be kept under the current name. --Tango 22:22, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Tango, I understand where you're coming from, but where's the plausability of this being a hoax? It's obviously a drinking game that has affected many people, and there is no profanity or anything comical about this article.--Plokloon 01:13, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Do not Delete!...I have played this game and it rules. For all you people that think it doesn't exist, don't be losers and try to delete this entry, instead go play it for yourself and you will see how fun it is.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.87.42.181 (talk • contribs) .

I recently played frizbeer for the first time, and not only is it a fun game but its hard. You'd think it'd be easy to hit a pole with a frisbee, but it's not. I hope this article doesnt get deleted, more people should be playing this game. San Dimas High School Football Rules!!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.198.205.20 (talk • contribs) .

It's not "obviously" anything. All we have is your word. We need a reliable source. --Tango 12:48, 4 May 2006 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.