Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fremont Elementary School

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus. No agreement was reached on if the page was necessary; note that the page in question was updated during the discussion. Camaron | Chris (talk) 20:16, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fremont Elementary School

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Unnecessary disambiguation page as none of the schools listed have their own page. Dougie WII (talk) 01:09, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Keep: The lack of pages for the things being disambiguated is not a real argument for deletion. The disambiguation page can only help and cannot hurt anything, so there's no reason to delete it. -- Masterzora (talk) 01:59, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep This article is useful, it provides a list of articles that need to be created, and one of the schools there does have a page. Oysterguitarist 04:28, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
    • Actually, no it doesn't have an article (it redirects to the article on the school district its in). TJ Spyke 09:32, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete Uneeded disambiguation page since none of the 3 entries have an article (the 1 blue link is a redirect to the school district's article). Having a disambiguation page when none of the entries has an article is not helping Wikipedia or anyone else. TJ Spyke 09:32, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. -- the wub "?!" 13:16, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • delete per TJ Spyke. Chris (クリス) (talk) 15:07, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete None of the schools have pages. Doubtful they ever will as it is rare a elementary school meets the {{WP:N|notability]] guidelines. GtstrickyTalk or C 15:18, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep a redirection page is required because this article is not notable enough to have its own article. It may as well also explain which school is is the redirect for. This school does not deserve its own article and has nor got one. I suspect some are voting on automatic cos its an elementary school. Look at the "article" ... it doesn't have one. Victuallers (talk) 21:08, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete or Modify I was wrong. I investigated further. The redirect goes nowhere. The page allows a template to exist for the school district that has all blue links..... but no or v.little in the way of articles. Redlinks would be fine but clicking on Fremont on the template just takes you round in a wasteful circle. THe whole district needs a major sort out. This page is neither here nor there. I hope that someone is not trying to turn Wikipedia into a phone directory. Victuallers (talk) 09:27, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
    • If someone types in the name of the school that is a blue link (which redirects to a school district article), it will say "(Redirected from Fremont Elementary School (Santa Ana, California))", so they will know which one. Why do we need a disambiguation page when none of the entries have articles? TJ Spyke 02:24, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
    • So that anyone typing in Fremont Elementary School finds what Wikipedia has ... they may not be looking for the one in Santa Ana and may find it confusing that it appears to deliver but doesnt. It may be sometime before they spot the redirect if they don't know where the school is Victuallers (talk) 20:19, 10 January 2008 (UTC) see above. Redlinks are fine .... bluelinks that take you on a needless journey are silly Victuallers (talk) 09:27, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
What has happened is that an IP has redirected all the nn elementary schools to an omnibus page; frankly a not unreasonable action. However, he didn't create an entry for this school which I have now done. Thank you for pointing it out. TerriersFan (talk) 16:56, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete, no need for a disambiguation page here yet. If the other schools are found to be notable enough to deserve their own articles, then this can be recreated, but for now it arguably violates WP:CBALL and should be deleted. Terraxos (talk) 22:37, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep - red links are useful and no logical reason to delete. TerriersFan (talk) 00:12, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep I think. The dab page is valid if there is one blue link. My issue is with the dab page. It is suppose to show the correct link to the article and this does not. So the real question is how to deal with that in the dab page. Deletion might be the correct way to go. But that would be based on the guidelines for dab pages. Vegaswikian (talk) 03:50, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment - OK I have relinked the school to meet dab guidelines of making link visible to show it can be done - it can always go back if folks think it looks too ugly :-) TerriersFan (talk) 04:20, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep For categories, lists and disambiguation pages, usefulness is an excellent defense against deletion. It's useful to readers to know where a "Fremont Elementary School" might be located. Noroton (talk) 17:33, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.