Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fred De Luca

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep per WP:SNOW. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 18:26, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fred De Luca

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• Comment Is this man really so important?

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Habs4ever (talk • contribs) 2008/05/29 06:30:59

• This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 13:26, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

• Keep Co-founder of a multi-billion dollar restaurant chain. #242 on forbes 400 richest americans. I'd say notable.--Cube lurker (talk) 13:47, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
• Keep – Does Mr. DeLuca deserve an article here? A definite yes, as shown here [1], with over 600 Google News hits and his affiliation with Subway. Should this be the article? Probably not! I can understand why the nominator brought this to Afd. However, an article needing drastic rewrites to bring up to Wikipedia standards is quite different than an article needing to be deleted. ShoesssS ^Talk 13:48, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
• YES, HE FOUNDED AND OWNS SUBWAY —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.113.29.248 (talk) 13:48, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
• Keep but source better. Next time, if you have just a doubt please use a notability tag. --Tikiwont (talk) 14:07, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Keep and Comment This appears to be a bad faith nomination or a violation of WP:POINT. The unsigned nominator has been creating articles on the founder of a local Montreal sandwich chain "Dagwoods" (founder article twice deleted), the sauce used on its sandwiches (deleted) and has been warned about twice adding spam about Dagwoods to the Montreal main article. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:54, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

• Keep. Maybe the article as it existed at the time of nomination read differently, but you'd think being the founder of Subway would be more than enough. The comment by Shawn in Montreal casts doubt on the good faith of the nomination. 23skidoo (talk) 18:00, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
• Speedy keep. Appears to be nominated to make a point. —BradV 20:34, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep. Bad faith nom. Person meets WP:BIO as he founded one of the most successful resturant chains in the United States. Nom is trying to make a point. Possibly someone connected to a competitor, like Shawn in Montreal mentioned. Doc Strange^MailboxLogbook 21:00, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
• Speedy and Snowball Keep utter waste of time. JuJube (talk) 01:45, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
• Comment Sort of sorry to say this because it does look like a WP:POINT but, my thinking based on the article is Merge or Redirect. It has nothing in it that shows him as notable separate from the the fast food chain he co-founded. It doesn't have multiple 3rd party sources to show said notability separate from the fast food chain. And the other co-founder doesn't have an article of his own despite having founded one of the most successful resturant chains in the United States. Jasynnash2 (talk) 09:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 20:40, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
• Merge to Subway (restaurant). When I came across this AfD, my initial reaction was "of course he's notable!". But I can't find evidence of that in a gsearch or in google news, nor do the refs in the article make a clear case for notability. If someone can dredge up some refs that show notability, I'll gladly change my !vote.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 20:46, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Comment – Try this link, [2]. I think you will find that they due substantiate Notability for a stand alone article. Cheers. ShoesssS ^Talk 20:54, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I had done a gnews search, and unfortunately almost all the hits are pay or register sites. :( I did go back through the first 6 pages of hits and looked at every freely available one; of the 4 I found, one wouldn't load, two were really about the company, not the person, and one focused on Fred De Luca. I added that last one to the article, but I'd really love to see a couple more.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 22:07, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.