Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frag-Ops

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The result was delete as failing verifability. - Mailer Diablo 07:24, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Frag-Ops

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Unreal Tournament mod that doesn't appear to be particular notable. Its sourceless and googling doesn't bring up any reliable sources. PROD was removed with edit summary: "Removed the note for deletion, for this page is to be used for providing small references related to the game and otherwise, for it is to be experiencing a revival" - I have no idea what that means. It has also been previously deleted as "nn/spam". Delete as failing WP:ATT. Wickethewok 00:12, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

• Delete Due to a lack of third party sources to establish notability. The awards and distinctions are not notable enough to confer notability to the mod. Leebo ^T/C 02:26, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - No reliable sources to assert notability. WP:N, WP:RS--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 03:19, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been added to the list of CVG deletions. — Kaustuv Chaudhuri 03:39, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Notability? Mrmoocow 10:45, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete reads sort of like a game guide, which I'm sure Wikipedia is not supposed to be. Resurgent insurgent 12:47, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete yet another game-mod article. Unreal Tournament itself is plenty notable, this isn't. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 13:14, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Keep I can fix the article, it isn't just a mod, the game was ported to the Reality Engine from Artificial Studios for commercial release as Frag Ops: Zero Squad. That fell through with 75% of the code done when the project leader Squirrel Zero (Matt) walked away. You can find out about the mod from Beyond Unreal's Frag Ops post mortem. The project leader contributed Realtime Shadows code and vehicle code that later showed up in other UT2K4 mods. The original Unreal Tournament 2004 version is being updated for relaunch by Scry (formerly Squirrel Zero) here. I can build it into a notable article but that doesn't really matter now, the consensus has it for deletion. --Basique 14:40, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

• You can always have it moved to your userspace, work on it there, and then have it undeleted at WP:DRV. Wickethewok 15:20, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

• Sounds good to me working on it here User:Basique/Workspace. --Basique 15:38, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

All done, can my updated version be fasttracked in? --Basique 16:42, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

• Delete Seriously lacking notability and it fails WP:V because of its lack of sources, just external links.Tellyaddict 16:36, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom, fails WP:NOT as a game mod, fails WP:ATT for Basique's assertions, and even if correct, heck, the video game industry dumps would-be games all the time; ample precedent holds that they generally aren't notable. Given that the article represents all the mainspace edits of its creator as well, add possible WP:COI to the till. RGTraynor 16:40, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Per nom. . 11kowrom 21:24, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - per nom. Fails WP:N and Wikipedia:Attribution. Ronbo76 00:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - Per nom. -- Wenli 03:20, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Notability is not policy, but WP:V sure as hell is. Cynical 22:30, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.