Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Forest Valley Day Camp

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Mailer Diablo 18:03, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Forest Valley Day Camp

non-notable summer camp. wikipediatrix 15:23, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

• Comment: there's a whole category of Summer Camps. Some have better articles than others (and some have more verifiable sources than this!) ... regardless, is there a consistent policy on summer camps? What makes a summer camp not-notable? Should the entire category be treated consistently (and perhaps deleted)? Scorpiondollprincess 15:28, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

The burden of proof is for notability. The question is, why is this summer camp notable? And yes, I would like to see most of the camps listed in the category deleted, because I can't see how they're any more notable than the pizza joint down the street, or my Uncle Ned's house. wikipediatrix 16:32, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Comment. The issue isn't notability, it's whether or not the article is encyclopedic. Notability offers a helpful guideline in considering encyclopedic value, but it is not the core issue. It's always helpful to refer back to WP:NOT. In the context of this particular article, how is the information not indiscriminate? How is this article not simply a directory listing? If the subject matter of the article has some notability, that might help explain how this article contributes to our greater understanding of the larger topic. Agent 86 17:53, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. It's hard to decide on this one. I would say keep if maybe some important person went to summer camp there and it changed their life and made him/her discover the cure to cancer. But really, who cares? If someone wants to immortalize their (no longer existent) summer camp, they should start a web page. --nathanbeach 02:43, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Notability not really asserted, not much here, seems to be a run-of-the-mill summer camp. GassyGuy 16:36, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, after considerable reflection. I also had to think hard on this one. Thanks for the replies to my comment above. I have to say, without verifiable sources provided by the author(s) to establish notability, this (and any other summer camp articles that likewise don't establish notability) should be deleted. There might conceivably be cases where a summer camp article could be encyclopedic. But I fail to see that this one qualifies. Scorpiondollprincess 19:11, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Delete. I pondered my own comment, above, re-read the article, thought some more, and decided that the fact that this was once the "largest private day camp in Canada" is probably not enough to make this article encyclopedic. The fact this camp is now defunct mitigates the one "notable" fact. No prejudice to anyone who can improve this article or show the historic value of this camp before the AfD runs its course. Agent 86 19:31, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Fluffy the Cotton Fish 13:46, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.