Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Footstep (Band)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 04:44, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Footstep (Band)

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A contested PROD, this is an article about a non-notable band that asserts notability. WODUP 07:43, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fulpy is a related AfD. WODUP 09:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

• delete: Wikipedia is funny... i didnt no goats wore coats —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.222.165.244 (talk) 00:54, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete: Obvious NN band. No hits on google even remotely related to this band. Only links supporting this article are MySpace pages. Username of creator suggests a violation of WP:COI. Andante1980 09:11, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy Delete: User who created this band also changed Grammy Award for Best Alternative Music Album, which he cites in the article, to falsely list the band as a nominee. (Please see real nominees.) I have reverted the edit. I'm going to go through the contrib history to check on other vandalism. --Sesameball^Talk 09:17, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

I second that, i also investigated that claim. It's total nonsense. Andante1980 09:19, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

I looked for the official nominee list and couldn't find it. My hero! The article asserts notability, so it can't be speedy deleted, but this AFD can certainly be snowball closed if an admin sees it that way. WODUP 09:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Comment Oh right, I forgot about that little detail and the "hoax rule", so consider it a delete vote. But I'm just wondering why he decided to pick on Thom Yorke ;) --Sesameball^Talk 09:32, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

• I can't find a speedy criteria that is applicable, but WP:SNOWBALL applies here. THE KING 09:28, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Near as I can tell, it looks like the user is actually a member of this band and thinks for whatever reason that it's heaps more notable than it really is. WP:VANITY, WP:SNOWBALL, WP:OWN and other reasons apply as to why this shouldn't be kept. Even though it's an essay and not a policy, it doesn't comply with WP:BAI #1, if I'm right in assuming this (and that applies even if it's a notable band). --lincalinca 09:55, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. -RiverHockey 13:04, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy Delete as NN although it should have been speedied per A7. At the time I nominated it for speedy, the false claim of being Grammy nominated had not yet been made, and was apparently made solely to sidestep speedy deletion. It's definitely snowing in Australia. Dethme0w 15:09, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
• Bugger ridiculous claims of Grammy nominations - if it's bollocks, it's bollocks. Speedy delete A7 - utterly and completely non-notable. Ice the album as well. Tony Fox (arf!) 20:54, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Nota notable band, WP:VANITY article. Hal peridol 23:59, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

*Don't Delete I can confirm that Footstep is definatly a big band here, but I cant find anything about them on the internet

• Dont delete this article raises good contraversy over the issue of small town bands making it big, on top of that I love this band —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.222.165.244 (talk) 04:39, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Struck out two 'votes' by the same user. Also, they were in violation of WP:ILIKEIT. Auroranorth (sign) 06:03, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Aside from the fact that the two comments where added by a user who readded some content on the page which was in the original article, suggesting that this particular user is likely a sockpuppet or a meatpuppet. Andante1980 06:08, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions. —Recurring dreams 05:46, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that's what I meant. Auroranorth (sign) 06:09, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

• Speedy delete. There are no reliable sources and this debate's getting close to meatpuppetry. Auroranorth (sign) 06:09, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy Delete Per A7. Twenty Years 06:10, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
• Don't DeleteAside from the fact that the two previous comments where added by the same user, suggesting that this particular user is likely a sockpuppet or a meatpuppet, or possibly even both at the same time, or maybe he is just secretly jealous of the band and wants them removed from the face of the earth all in all. This is indeed turning out to be quite a debate.. What not? I happen to be friends with a freind of the band members, it is indeed real, and is currently a major topic of conversation.
  • Your insistance to strike out a respected editor to suggest that your vote to keep is rather laughable. I would encourage you to join us here on wikipedia as an article editor, but striking out stuff just because you don't like it is not reasonable and childish. --lincalinca 10:11, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Delete, utterly non-notable. Doctorfluffy 23:14, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
• Dont delete How do you becom an article editor anyway? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.222.165.244 (talk) 02:50, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
  • If you keep voting multiple times, you and your socks will be blocked. JuJube 04:09, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as n-n WP:BAND. User above: anyone who edits an article is considered an editor. tomasz. 00:51, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete author's bad behavior, questionable edits and feigned ignorance (acting like he doesn't know how to be an editor when he created the articles to begin with) give even more creedence to the fact that this just is not notable. JuJube 04:09, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

* Don't Delete Hey wait up a second I just wanted to know how to sign up for what you guys do, and this is notable, everyone in the barracks knows about it, Sorry about voting again but i had to clear that, I wont vote anymore :-)

• Delete I'm Australian and I think that I know a bit about music, but I've never heard of this band. The claim that a modern and popular band from a first world country can be notable but somehow not show up on the internet as they "refuse to have any internet articles written on them" is laughable. --Nick Dowling 07:43, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

*Dont Delete This band is a major topic in current converstions at school and home, It seems that some people have not heard of them, I would like to Inform you that this band is real However They did not enter the grammy's but play at alot of events such as fundraisiers,parties etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.148.43.139 (talk) 08:14, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

• As pointed out by Nick, if they don't want any articles written about them, why would they want an encyclopedia article? Playing at parties, fundraisers, events and such don't make them notable. If that were the case, I'd have my own article on here, since I support my family half by my earnings from playing live music in original composition based bands, but I don't (yet) consider myself notable enough to warrant a page, being why I don't have one here (and if I did, I wouldn't edit it myself for WP:OWN and WP:COI reasons). --lincalinca 08:26, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

(wellmonster)- yea this band is real i'v herd them and they should not be deleted ok! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wellmonster (talk • contribs) 08:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC) — Wellmonster (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

• Meatpuppets ahoy. JuJube 09:50, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

• Don't Delete This band is not confined to the area suggested in previous comment, it is a well toured band travelling far and wide, and is well known throut Australia, and parts of PnG, How could you Not Know them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.179.206.78 (talk) 10:51, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Footsteps rad as! so dont delete them. and if you dont know who they are then you should probably give up on life right now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.176.111.155 (talk) 11:14, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

• Maybe it's time to wrap this one up? I think we've kinda seen it all, violation of WP:COI, WP:ILIKEIT, WP:BAND, WP:SNOW and sock/meatpuppets. While this band probably matters to a small number of people involved in it or their direct peers, it's quite obvious that there's a definite NN flavour to all this.

• Let's not forget WP:BULLSHIT regarding the fraudulent edits by the article's creator to the Grammy nominees page. Were it not for that little stunt we wouldn't be having this special conversation right now. Dethme0w 16:33, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

• Yeh.. Ill agree on that one —Preceding unsigned comment added by Browny3 (talk • contribs) 13:21, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
• Comment It's time to wrap this up as the article is decending into even more blatant vandalism/falsehoods. --Nick Dowling 23:14, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.