Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flint Again

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to John Troutman and merge, the edit-history remains intact. — Nearly Headless Nick ^{C} 09:00, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flint Again

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This is yet another non-notable web comic. Its Alexa ranking is over 600k (very poor), and the only places mentioning it seem to be blogs, forums, chat rooms, social sites, and other pages of little to no value or notability. Wikipedia is not a DMOZ-style directory, and we should only be listing notable web comics - i.e., those which have had a noticible effect on culture, society, and media, and are cited by established publications. Including any and all buzz found on Web 2.0 sites only leads to fancruft. NetOracle 00:58, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

• weak delete your argument is not Wikipedia policy. Wikipedia is not paper. That said, this article borders on fancruft. Niffweed17, Destroyer of Chickens 01:39, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

That is why I said "should", as it relates to my personal belief that this article is basically useless........we seek consensus here, right? If policy allowed, I would quote it and speedy delete this article, but it doesn't, therefore we use AfD. NetOracle 02:11, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Just as my comment related to my own personal belief that Wikipedia is not paper and that there is nothing inherently non-notable about webcomics entirely ignored outside of the internet community. Niffweed17, Destroyer of Chickens 02:23, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Just because it is technologically and economically possible to list every named thing in the world, there is no practical reason to do so. Most of these webcomics have had no influence on the world, short of giving a bit of amusement to a very small and homogenous readership. The articles on them only appeal to strong fans of webcomics, who are seeking to discover new strips - other than that, nobody is going to read them or take interest in what they have to say. Such a page is basically the textbook definition of "fan site". Wikipedia is not a search engine or directory, and thus, should not be used to compile a list of every actively published strip currently in possession of a web address. Please tell me how these dime-a-dozen strips or the J. Random Cartoonists who pen them are notable. NetOracle 02:35, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Webcomics-related deletions. -- Sid 3050 02:08, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

No; I agree with you to an extent. For example, I believe this particular webcomic (Flint Again) is more fancruft than anything and doesn't really need to be featured here. However, not every webcomic is fancruft, and it would appear that you and I have very different interpretations of what sort of publicity or cultural influence characterizes a webcomic as notable. Niffweed17, Destroyer of Chickens 04:28, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

• Merge with one of the other two Flint comic articles. Or both. Balancer 09:11, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete and Merge into John Troutman. - Francis Tyers · 10:55, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Agreed: merge to the other Basil Flint article. DS 15:10, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep nominated as an attack and in bad faith. Notable comic. Ccfr88 23:26, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: Confirmed sockpuppet. That said, the editor is not (yet) past warnings and hasn't posted in this debate with any other account. --Kizor 00:26, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Should be merged, but the current content is not worth merging. --Krator 00:52, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
• Merge into John Troutman.

Comment if anything is non-notable it is Alexa. As a professional webdesigner, I know very well that it is far from perfect. It can be used to tag something notable, not non-notable. JackSparrow Ninja 21:22, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

• Merge into the original Basil Flint article, as this comic is nothing but a relaunch with the same character. Skybright Daye 23:55, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep and merge per above merge comments. Also troubled by the edit summary which saw this nominated. [1] Hiding Talk 21:06, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.