Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flag of Gloucestershire

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. --Bongwarrior (talk) 09:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Flag of Gloucestershire

Flag of Gloucestershire (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View log)

• Delete Fails WP:N. Google search gives 6 ghits [1]. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 17:47, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep It actually gives a lot more hits if you take off the quotation marks [2]. I know you only did it to narrow it down, but you essentially narrowed it down too far as there are a lot of pages that mention in while stated something like "a design for a new flag of the county of gloucestershire". Noteworthy for a 1,000 year old county as well.--Borgarde^talk 18:20, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep Although it is sort of a WP:CRYSTAL, there does seem to be sufficient coverage such as [3] from the BBC. Right now it is a bit of a current news article that will change but the name on the article will allow it to be updated once the "new" flag is determined.--Pmedema (talk) 18:50, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
• Delete - not notable at this time; fails WP:CRYSTAL badly. At this point, it's non-notable; just publicity for the High Sheriff and his contest. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:59, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
• Weak keep - the page will only be recreated in about a month's time when the flag is actually created, and the development of that flag just scrapes through on notability, imo. -- Roleplayer (talk) 19:10, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
• WP:CRYSTAL says delete, WP:IAR says keep - I lean towards the latter on this occasion. EJF (talk) 21:50, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep - The coverage indicates notability despite it being a future event. That said, is there an existing flag of Gloucestershire that information can be added on? matt91486 (talk) 01:18, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
• Weak keep - Even Flags of the World has little to say about Gloucestershire. Since there will be a flag in the near future, there is not much point deleting this article only to rewrite it next month. If the new flag were to come out in the not-so-immediate future, I would say delete - 52 Pickup ^(deal) 13:45, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep Thank you everyone for lavishing so much attention on this item. I have always been impressed by the vast wealth of vexillological knowledge available on Wikipedia. My aim was to add to this pool. I assumed that people might appreciate knowing that there would very soon be a new flag for the ancient county. I am not seeking to advertise either the Sherrif nor his competition but as a competition organised by the High Sherrif is the manner by which the new flag will come into existence, it seemed rather pertinent to include this in the entry. I first heard about this impending flag on the Internet, on the website which I included as a reference. This refers to the competition so it seemed logical to mention this process in the text. Many flags are and have been chosen by competition - Australia, Papua New Guinea, Kosovo -is it acceptable to mention this in the respective texts describing each flag? I just checked and it seems it is, so why not for Gloucestershire too?

Maybe the issue is that this is a forthcoming flag? Well there was an entry for a forthcoming Kosovan flag in Wikipedia for a long time before the current one was chosen? Why? I imagined it was to let everyone know that there was soon to be a flag chosen for the impending state of Kosovo i.e spreading knowledge - and if memory serves that article mentioned, a flag design competition. This was held under the auspices of the United Nations backed Kosovan government, logically therefore Wikipedia could have been accused of advertising the Kosovan government and its competition. This would have been rather daft though - how could one describe the forthcoming flag without describing the body and process involved in its inception? I seem to recall that there was even a link to an Internet page where one could read all about the competition and even find out how to enter...this seems eerily familiar.

As with the Kosovoan flag, which had an empty space pending the final outcome, I added an empty image for the flag of Gloucestershire - my intention being to update the page with the chosen image, just as happened with Kosovo. Thus, those consulting Wikipedia would not only be aware of the forthcoming flag but will also get to see what the successful design will be.

If people feel strongly opposed to either Gloucestershire, the High Sherriff, or being kept informed of ongoing events - go ahead and delete. —Preceding Vexilo comment added by Vexilo (talk • contribs) 18:22, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

• • comment - keeping informed of ongoing events is not the primary purpose here; that's more a role for WikiNews. Wikipedia is not on deadline. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:45, 21 February 2008 (UTC) (a vexillolophile)
    • comment - yes... but the fact that the choosing of a new flag is in it self notable and verifiable.--Pmedema (talk) 13:29, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.