Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fitz R S de Souza

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep - CrazyRussian talk/email 18:28, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fitz R S de Souza

Non-notable. Can scarcely find him in Google. Though he may have done some great things, a lot of other people have as well. Nathan Beach 20:48, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep, but need better verification. That is a remarkable life story and members of parliament satisfy WP:BIO#3. The web-site of the Prime Minister's office in India mentions that this person has received the Pravasi Bharatiya Samman Award in 2004[1], but I can't personally vouch for this award being a big deal. The article currently lacks citations from reliable sources. — Kaustuv Chaudhuri 21:09, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: I'll at least clean up the grammar/spelling, etc... Nathan Beach 21:13, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and continue cleanup. Both [2] and [3] seem reliable to me Dlyons493 Talk 21:18, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletions. — Kaustuv Chaudhuri 21:26, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete unless cleaned up with evidence from reliable sources of how this guy meets WP:BIO. Stifle (talk) 19:11, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

 AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Will (message me!) 09:12, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Comment: I'm not going to say delete again, but I totally agree with your "Delete unless cleaned up" semi-policy. Unfortunately, this was a "Random article" click I ran across. I personally have no interest in researching this subject. It doesn't seem like the editor who started this will follow up (he/she needed a lot of help with grammar/spelling/formatting anyway). I guess out of penance for AfD'ing it, I should become the new expert on this obscure freedom fighter with the extremely long and confusing name: Doctor Shri Fitz Remedios Santana (a.k.a. F.R.S.) De Souza. Anyone want to help? --Nathan Beach 16:02, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I may be able to help - later this week. Judging by this, he seems to have been a participant at one or more of the Lancaster House Conferences (Kenya). Someone with access to the digital Times would probably be able to track him down. --HJMG 08:20, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep - as per Dlyons493 - this seems to be him on Indian govt website (Ministry of Overseas Indian Affairs) - see also [4] --HJMG 10:10, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep pending verification - CheNuevara 10:20, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep as his notability can't be disputed. This page gives his full name. up+land 10:32, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: I added the full name to the article -- I'll move this page and redirect after the deletion discussion is over. Nathan Beach 15:47, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep sources on government website appear to establish notability. Just zis Guy you know? 12:16, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Uppland, notability has been established. Yamaguchi先生 22:23, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Keep. The government reference backs the notability claim, but I have this uneasy feeling seeing a govt's website like this. If anyone can provide better reference, and add it to the article, I would definitely say "Strong Keep". — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 07:25, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.