Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/First Love (novella)

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The result of the debate was DELETE. Postdlf 19:23, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] First Love (novella)

Maybe the author wrote this novella, for no google or amazon search reveals any such novella. No author, no plot, and obviously the author of the piece has lost interest in Wikipedia. Judging from what he wrote in the talk page, he doesn't know what Wikipedia's about. There is, however, a very famous First Love under the misleading title First Love (Ivan Turgenev Novel). My idea is to shift that entry here. Mandel 21:25, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)

• Delete First Love (novella) as unverifiable. The information (what little there is) must be incorrect because there is no information to be found on a novella of that title with that plot and character names. Maybe the title's wrong, maybe something else, who knows, but without any context as to author or publication date, no one can ever really find out what it's supposed to be. Postdlf 21:05, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Delete this as unverifiable, and you can do what you like with First Love (Ivan Turgenev Novel), although if it is a novel rather than a novella, I'd suggest First Love (novel). Dcarrano 00:04, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete unverifiable. JamesBurns 09:14, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
• Replace content. I did a rather extensive search to find this and checked online sources to determine if in fact this was referring to the Turgenev novella, but to no avail. I'm interested in moving the aforementioned First Love (Ivan Turgenev Novel) to First Love (novella) to better match current naming guidelines, but was blocked by the existence of this page. Rather than deleting the page, the content could be swapped ... if that would be an acceptable solution, then I could handle the mechanics (would not require any admin powers). My interest in this is from my participation in Wikipedia:WikiProject Disambiguation rather than a personal interest in the novel. Courtland 17:17, July 24, 2005 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure what you mean by "swap" the content—merely cutting and pasting to change an article name is frowned upon because it doesn't move the edit history. The only proper thing to do, if the Turgenev article should be at "First Love (novella)", is to delete the unverifiable latter and then move the former to that title. Postdlf 18:16, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
    • The impact of this depends upon how extensive the edit-history and the perceived importance in preserving it (always important, but less so in some cases). Mind that the history is not destroyed but is accessible as a manual x-reference if the proper edit-commentary is added. Note that I'm not in the habit of doing this often; there are some cases where it can be used without undue negative impact, though. If this is one of the cases where it is felt the impact is not justified, which might be the case, then I'd gladly abide by consensus in the matter and not boldly edit where noone would wish to edit (so to speak). Courtland 19:07, July 24, 2005 (UTC)
      • Considering how long this VfD has been going on, I'm just going to go ahead and delete the article per consensus, and then you can move the Turgenev one there if you like. Postdlf 19:23, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.