Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Firearms (computer game) (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 21:31, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Firearms (computer game)

Has been nominated for deletion before, and was kept because only of vague arguments about the fact that people play it. As it is, the article has never shown any reliable sources or shown any verifiability. Delete as such. Wickethewok 20:35, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• speedy keep - The nominator has suggested that there were only "vague arguments about the fact that people play [Firearms]." In reviewing the previous nom, I quickly came across this: "This was the number 3 mod after CS and TFC for halflife 1 until DoD came out. It was on contract with valve for distribution with all new HL cd's I believe starting with game of the year edition. It was featured in PC Gamer magazine. Won mod of the year from PCGamer and runner up game of the year for 2000." A re-nomination really should be done on the basis of considerable concern over the validity of the previous result, not because the article has not been improved. If that's the concern, then improve the article. -Harmil 21:43, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• If someone can provide a link/citation to the PC Gamer article, I will withdraw the AFD. Wickethewok 22:34, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. Notable, if only historically. Was an extremely popular mod, won several awards, was published by valve on their GOTY and CS retail releases, and an appreciation of its characteristics has direct relevance to upcoming HL2 mods such as WaW and FA:S. It also debateably introduced a number of features which are now common to FPSs such as stamina, reinforcements, territorial control game mode and going prone. Admittedly the article isnt in a very good state atm, and could probably be regarded as a stub, but that in itself not grounds for deletion, just for improvement Modest Genius ^talk 22:25, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep As per Modest Genius's reply. --Falcorian ^(talk) 02:49, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - This is so lazy. You're nominating a mod that came with the official retail release of Counter-Strike. - Hahnchen 00:27, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, very notable Half-Life mod. MarphyBlack 22:26, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, Your reason to delete it is even more vague than the arguments put forth in the first deletion process. We've covered this before. It isn't the greatest article in the world but that means you help it become something better, not help it become something worse. Or in this case, nothing at all. Natrapsmai—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.1.139.16 (talk • contribs) 11:39, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.