Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Finola Hackett

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. Sjakkalle (Check!) 13:49, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Finola Hackett

Second place finisher at national spelling bee -- notable? See above discussion of Saryn Hooks. NawlinWiki 14:45, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Speedy delete, A7, as with Saryn Hooks. Tagged. PJM 14:50, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep Winner of Canadian Bee, #2 at the American Bee, certainly notable - why not? This really is a famous "athlete" that competed and won at the highest level on live TV - and we're not paper - so why do we need to delete it? - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 14:56, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep This is not a speedy by any means, but it is notable for being in the top two in a large event. It doesn't hurt to alter the status quo of the spelling bee competition bios. Notablity, is there according to WP:BIO, "(people) who have played in a competition of equivalent standing (to) a league sport." Yanksox 15:03, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: This is clearly isn't a speedy delete, as there is a claim. She may qualify under WP:BIO if sufficient media coverage is shown in the article (beyond one day's news). I'll wait to see if there's improvement. --Rob 15:06, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Check this[1] out for a quick google slice of how spread out the news is. Yanksox 15:08, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep as per CrazyRussian. An athlete of notability sufficient for an encyclopedia with LOTS of space. Interlingua talk 15:11, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Strongest possible keep I'm going to basically paraphrase the argument I made on the talk page for this article: It is my opinion that every National Spelling Bee winner is quite notable. To win an extremely well-known and well-regarded competition, one which millions of people enter and has been nationally televised for a decade, is as strong a claim of notability as being a famous Go or poker player (and I'm a huge poker fan, so I don't want my Marcel Luske article deleted!). Coming in second in this competition is definitely a claim of notability which may, in and of itself, help the person pass WP:BIO. But, for the sake of disagreement, let's say it's not. The CanSpell National Spelling Bee is a nationally-held tournament in Canada, and both years it has been held, Finola has won it. WP:BIO asserts notability for "Persons achieving renown or notoriety for their involvement in newsworthy events," and Finola has been involved in three different newsworthy events (albeit all regarding spelling). Just look at Yanksox's Google News link to see how widespread coverage of national spelling bees (American and Canadian) is. Or just search "Finola Hackett" on regular Google and check out the 20,100 total and 277 unique hits. -- Kicking222 15:20, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep per Crzrussian and Kicking222. If she were merely a second, possibly not, but she was a first, twice. AnonEMouse (squeak) 15:32, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep as per Kicking222 - she's the two-time Canadian champion, that's pretty darn impressive, and then placing second in the U.S. just adds to it. Tony Fox 16:34, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep as per above, she won the Candian one twice which is pretty notable in itself. -- DrunkenSmurf 17:32, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Speedy keep to counter the bogus speedy delete. ;-) Obviously notable as a two-time champion of CanSpell National Spelling Bee. Silensor 17:53, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Extremely Strong Delete per nom. Winning a spelling be is not notable. Ardenn 18:02, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Am I the only one who finds the irony in the comment directly above? Silensor 19:00, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
      • if you hadn't said anything, i would have missed it. lol Antmoney85 19:08, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • keep; national spelling bees are, amazingly, major "sporting" events. — brighterorange (talk) 19:41, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong keep per other users. -- getcrunkjuicecontribs 21:56, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong Delete as per nom. Same for Saryn Hooks. "Wikipedia has lots of space" arguments miss the point of an encyclopedia. Bwithh 22:46, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep these things are televised and international, so the second place finisher is notable IMO. --Eivindt@c 00:13, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep She is notable for being a Canadian in a US-based competition called the National Spelling Bee. Because of her, commentators noted a feature of the Bee that I (and I'm sure most other Americans watching) were not aware of: the contest is open to qualifying children in all English-speaking countries. As an example of one such child who placed in the Bee, she is notable. -Fsotrain09 04:54, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment The memory of this event is still quite strong in the minds of everyone and this is swaying there opinion toward keeping the article. I predict that if we wait a year and try this AfD again, no one will remember who she is and then the article will no doubt be voted off. --Atrian 05:05, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep I live in the same province as her and she is famous now!!! Thankyoubaby 05:11, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep The National Spelling Bee is a highly relevant event, and the runner-up certainly deserves recognition for her hard work and dedication. Additionally, Finola Hackett has become famous because of the primetime broadcast of the National Spelling Bee. She is also the Canadian national champion, and she should have an article for that reason alone. Keep her article! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.187.155.89 (talk • contribs) .
  • Strong keep per Kicking222 above, among others. Even if we don't automatically consider spelling-bee winners notable, Finola is easily the most famous spelling champion/competitor Canada has known to date, and has enjoyed extensive media coverage as a result. — stickguy (:^›)— home - talk - 19:01, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong keep Two-time winner of CanSpell. Only one other speller (Jody-Anne Maxwell - Jamaica and Scripps 1998) has won two national bees in a lifetime. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 152.163.100.202 (talk • contribs) .
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.