Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fillgraderstiege

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. --Coredesat 03:13, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fillgraderstiege

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Non-notable. Only gets 917 ghits. It's a staircase, for heaven sakes. WikiBot 03:07, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. As nom mentioned, it's only a staircase.--TBCΦtalk? 03:19, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. I did the translation from the German WP article of the same name. There isn't a lot to say about it, but it is a notable landmark in Vienna. - grubber 03:22, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Meeting the German notability guidelines is not the same as meeting those on the English Wikipedia.--TBCΦtalk? 03:29, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

    It's obscure, but that does not make it unencyclopedic. There is enough information about it to make it a non-stub, and it is a legitimate site in Vienna. It stands out when you walk by it (I used to walk by it all the time). I'm not sure what the harm is in keeping this. - grubber 04:02, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

    Being a "legitimate site" does not always make it notable. After all, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information--TBCΦtalk? 04:34, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

• Weak delete The wording makes it sound somewhat noteable, but since it makes no statement of notability, the nominator probably should have PROD'd it. ¿ςפקιДИτς! ☺ ☻ 03:35, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. NN staircase...staircase. Just had to make sure I was reading it right.--Kf4bdy ^{talk contribs} 03:59, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

You could say the same thing about the Great Platte River Road Archway Monument. "It's an arch over a road?" Size doesnt make a difference. As I stated earlier, this is a beautiful piece of architecture that you wont see very many other places. It is very unique. - grubber 04:06, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Note that the Great Platte River Road Archway Monument is also a museum.--TBCΦtalk? 04:35, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. But when I drove under that arch, and when I walked by those steps, you look and think, "What the hell is that all about?" They stand out. I think it's nice that WP has some (perhaps brief) information on what these sites are. - grubber 15:09, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. It is a work of architectural art. It stays. Black-Velvet 07:03, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - a fine example of Art Nouveau from a city which was critical in that movement's development. The claim that it is particularly beautiful is referenced. The winner in that poll was the Spanish Steps incidentally; are they just another staircase, or perhaps an important Roman landmark? Stairs can evidently be notable. --Stemonitis 09:59, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep A well known set of stairs (as odd as that may sound) which are important in the world of architecture. --The Way 10:13, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - appears to be a well-known piece in the world of architecture. -- Whpq 12:15, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Vienna is a city with an immense importance in the history of architecture so Viennese landmarks are worthy of inclusion. WP is not just about the English-speaking world. --Folantin 13:50, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Landmark noted for it beauty. JASpencer 13:59, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. The claim that something can be noteworthy in German but not in English lets WP:BIAS back in. Smerdis of Tlön 16:29, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Well written, and informative. --Falcorian ^(talk) 19:11, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
• Obvious keep, notable architectural monument. -- Ekjon Lok 21:54, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, or at the absolute minimum merge into Mariahilf. An impressive work of public art/architecture into one of the world's most famous cities would seem to me to be automatically notable. Vafthrudnir 17:16, 11 November (EST)
• Comment - I am pretty much convinced that the staircase is notable, but I'd really like to see some sources talking about its relevance in architecture... that would help in demonstrating notability. --Nehwyn 22:10, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep "It aint English so it aint notable!?" PAH! Notable piece of architecture. Jcuk 00:09, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. "the fourth most beautiful steps in Europe" deserves an entry. Westenra 03:30, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Well written, seems notable, (Translated German page:[1])raptor 07:10, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Not just a staircase... It has a long history and is apparently a work of art, seeing that placing as fourth most-beautiful in Europe. -newkai t-c 20:22, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Knowledgeable tourists go out of their way to see this. Whenever that's true, we should have an article. Unfocused 07:22, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.