Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ferry Athletic YFC

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Non-notable club, lack of reliable third-party references. PeaceNT 14:22, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ferry Athletic YFC

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I think youth football teams fail the notability requirements. Corvus cornix 22:43, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

• I feel this is an interesting article and is doing no harm. This is giving people a chance to view information about a youth football club that normally would be unavailable. Tannadice25 08:56, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Note Tannadice25 is the article's creator and sole editor to date, and also has a COI as he plays for the team in question

• This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. ChrisTheDude 08:24, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete This could have been prodded or even speedied before AfD. Totally totally non-notable. пﮟოьεԻ 57 08:33, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

• I don't understand what is wrong with my article. Albeit it is not finished yet and I still need to add more history and relevant details but this is the page of one of the largest youth football clubs in Dundee. This is certainly not non-notable. Tannadice25 08:56, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes it is. Notability is asserted through the presence of independent third party references to the club. The fact that the club has only 63 Ghits, several of which are not actually about to the club anyway, and only one mention in a local newspaper (a letter complaining about foul language from 2005) aside from fixture lists shows that it is not notable. пﮟოьεԻ 57 09:25, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

• If you search for it, you actually get 2700 results. How can you base how notable it is by how many results are returned on the internet? As my article says Ferry Athletic has a feeder partnership with Celtic (and you can't really get much more notable than that in Scotland). It is also well known throughout Dundee as a high standard football club. I know opinions of notability can vary but I feel this makes a worthy addition to Wikipedia and defdinately cannot see any harm in it being included. Tannadice25 09:53, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Most of your 2700 results are actually for Briton Ferry Athletic F.C., a Welsh adult team ChrisTheDude 09:55, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
    • As Chris says, your search is compromised by the presence of another club with part of the same name - my search excluded pages with Briton, Britton, and a couple of other organisations with Ferry Athletic in the title, resulting in only 63 hits, still not all of which were about the team. пﮟოьεԻ 57 10:10, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
      • Sorry did not read the results properly. How is this settled? Tannadice25 10:17, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
        • Take a look at WP:RS. You need to provide details of where reliable independent third-party sources (ie not the club's own website, MySpace, a player's blog, etc) have given coverage to the subject in order to prove the subject's notability and thereby keep the article. ChrisTheDude 10:21, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete A completely non notable team. This could probably be speedied under CSD A7. Youth football clubs are hardly ever notable, particularly ones that play in a park on Sunday afternoons. All of the blue linked players in the article are not associated with this team. One is a DT for the Steelers and another one plays rugby. The rest are associated with other sports, but I'm not going to list all of them. --Cyrus Andiron 12:12, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
• Retain I believe this is interesting and unusual and we should start looking to expand our knowledge base by making more uncommon pages like this one. Holly no1 17:13, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Holly no1 (talk · contribs) has no contributions outside this AfD

• Strong delete - totally non-notable. Qwghlm 11:15, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
• Strong delete - a long long way below notability requirements. Robotforaday 20:11, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - This information is appropriate for the organization's page, not notable in the sense required for an encyclopedia. Llajwa 15:19, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

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