Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ferrugem
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete - Yomanganitalk 18:39, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Ferrugem
Non notable Brazilian ex-VJ. Fails WP:BIO. Húsönd 01:43, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-10-08 02:18Z
- Keep. He is a well known VJ in Brazil, which makes him notable. --Carioca 03:21, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- Comment. It seems as though the survival of this one will depend on providing sources. I couldn't find more than passing mentions of him online, but maybe someone else knows what to look for and can improve the article during this AfD. Grandmasterka 03:45, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- Transwiki to Brazilian Wikipedia. Carcharoth 11:29, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- Why on earth should they want an English article...? Punkmorten 14:47, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- You know what I mean! :-) If he is only notable in Brazil, get someone at the Brazilian Wikipedia to write an article on him. I'm sure they are deleting articles people write on Phillip Schofield (to pick a random example). Carcharoth 17:30, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- This is not an English-centric Wikipedia. It is an international encyclopedia in English. If he meets WP:BIO in Brazil, he meets it here. Grandmasterka 17:58, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- Good point. I wonder whether that works in practice though. I am sure the individual language Wikipedias have articles that would be deleted if translated and copied across. I guess what I am saying is that the article is more likely to be accepted and expanded at the Brazilian wiki. Having said that, I can only find a Portuguese-language wiki, as that is the official language of Brazil. Carcharoth 20:16, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- Comment Do you actually have a concrete example of an English-language article that would meet notability requirements being deleted in a foreign Wikipedia? If not, then you're just speculating. ColourBurst 22:55, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- I am just speculating, but your challenge prompted me to investigate a little bit. I thought of looking at the current articles nominated for deletion and seeing if any have interwiki links. Not many do, most being obscure and/or recently created. But James W. Walter (looking likely to be deleted) is also on the French Wikipedia here. So is the interwiki co-ordination good enough that we will notify the French if we delete the article, and do we expect the same sort of notification when they delete stuff. I would say not in both cases. So I suggest that it is quite likely that deletion policies are not uniform across the wikipedias, which is as it should be, as they are written for different audiences (different languages), and are independent anyway (though all are hosted by the Foundation). Carcharoth 00:47, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
- The reason I ask is there have been a few AfD nominations that have been bandied about saying that we should delete an article on the English Wikipedia because it isn't popular enough in English countries (without checking at least if it's notable in its own country/language). This seems extremely biased to me. Walter is from the United States (and a large portion of his time is still spent there) and therefore it's easy to prove if he's notable in English. From what I read in the article, the Walter article was transwikied from an earlier version of the current article as well, so it might not be that relevant if somebody does decide to delete it. I'm not saying that notability is having an entry in a foreign language Wikipedia, but I am saying that the interwiki could be used to find notability links, something that doesn't always happen when an article with an interwiki is nominated, and people cite the nonexistent "a person must be notable in English or in English-speaking countries" criteria (which is actually contrary to WP:V). ColourBurst 21:18, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
- I am just speculating, but your challenge prompted me to investigate a little bit. I thought of looking at the current articles nominated for deletion and seeing if any have interwiki links. Not many do, most being obscure and/or recently created. But James W. Walter (looking likely to be deleted) is also on the French Wikipedia here. So is the interwiki co-ordination good enough that we will notify the French if we delete the article, and do we expect the same sort of notification when they delete stuff. I would say not in both cases. So I suggest that it is quite likely that deletion policies are not uniform across the wikipedias, which is as it should be, as they are written for different audiences (different languages), and are independent anyway (though all are hosted by the Foundation). Carcharoth 00:47, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
- This is not an English-centric Wikipedia. It is an international encyclopedia in English. If he meets WP:BIO in Brazil, he meets it here. Grandmasterka 17:58, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- You know what I mean! :-) If he is only notable in Brazil, get someone at the Brazilian Wikipedia to write an article on him. I'm sure they are deleting articles people write on Phillip Schofield (to pick a random example). Carcharoth 17:30, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- Why on earth should they want an English article...? Punkmorten 14:47, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Strong Delete Notability not asserted. Igbogirl 18:52, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Valrith 22:56, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, borderline {{db-bio}} for no claim to notability, zero sources provided for any such claim. Sandstein 07:37, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
