Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fenfolk

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Johnleemk | Talk 10:20, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fenfolk

A cryptozoological race. Unfortunately too crypto to have been heard of anywhere but Wikipedia. Allegedly in southwest England but speaking with a North Norfolk accent - strange. -- RHaworth 02:42, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Phrasing of nomination made me grin :) Adrian Lamo · (talk) · (mail) · 07:21, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Royboycrashfan 03:23, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, unless the author can site some sources. I'm very familiar with cryptozoology and Forteana, but I've never heard of the Fenfolk. Zagalejo 03:31, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete while it sounds like a great article, Wikipedia isn't original research. If it can be verified, I'd consider changing my vote. Ardenn 07:24, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as per no original research. Looks like a made up story. --Terence Ong (恭喜发财) 08:28, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
  • WP:BJAODN, nice one. Delete, of course. Lukas (T.|@) 09:26, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete - good try but not quite good enough - there ARE no fens in south-west England: if he'd stuck to Norfolk, he might just have sneaked it through. Staffelde 12:00, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Technically that's not correct, in fact Wikipedia has an article on one, Bolshayne Fen. But I know what you mean. SP-KP 18:45, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Well I'm blowed - I must admit I've never heard of it. But then I'm from Dorset. Staffelde 00:27, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
  • - Being from Cambridgeshire, myself, I can verify the claim that there are rumours/legends of "fenfolk" within the local community. They're said to be the products of inbreeding within the fen-peoples. I suggest that the southwest-southeast issue was merely an typing error, and, therefore, have changed the article to reflect this. James H. 12:05, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
The preceding unsigned vote was added by 85.12.65.33, a School-IP persistent vandalism source. Lukas (T.|@) 12:58, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
  • I've had trouble finding any evidence for this myth that isn't just local stories, or news of sightings passed on through word-of-mouth. But I think I may have something here:

"Day by day the feasting continued, until its noise and the festal joy of its revellers aroused a mighty enemy, Grendel, the loathsome fen-monster. This monstrous being, half-man, half-fiend, dwelt in the fens near the hill on which Heorot stood. Terrible was he, dangerous to men, of extraordinary strength, human in shape but gigantic of stature, covered with a green horny skin, on which the sword would not bite. His race, all sea-monsters, giants, goblins, and evil demons, were offspring of Cain, outcasts from the mercy of the Most High, hostile to the human race."

- Hero-Myths and Legends of the British Race (Chapter I) - by Maud Isabel Ebbutt (Published 1910)

I know it isn't much, and I doubt you'll take it as any sort of proof, but at least I tried. Oh, and I meant "East", not "West"... That'll teach me for not proof-reading.--Grubbles 15:21, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Comment: As a punishment for your misbehaviour, you will write an essay on the topic: "What is the difference between my made-up 'fenfolk' and the description of Grendel in l.102-106 of 'Beowulf'"?
wæs se grimma gæst   Grendel hāten,
mǣre mearc-stapa,   sē þe mōras hēold,
fen and fæsten;   fīfel-cynnes eard
won-sǣlig wer   weardode hwīle,
siððan him scyppend   forscrifen hæfde.
Oh yes, and you can learn and recite the first three chapter of the poem by heart please, by tomorrow. ;-) Lukas (T.|@) 15:52, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

--- Well, I know nothing of any poem, but I found all that on this site Clicky ... hmmm. So, short of getting someone to write a book for me to quote from, I've got no way to prove this myth? ... Well, at least, to the extent a myth can be proven. At least chuck it in WP:BJAODN, it took a rather long time to write.--Grubbles 16:03, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

  • Just a question...if it is a known myth, why delete it? I think it should be deleted if nobody has ever heard of nor can find any evidence of the myth. Kukini 16:08, 1 February 2006 (UTC) I can only find this in my searches...http://www.fenfolk.glowinternet.net/.


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.