Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Famous Telugu Brahmins

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete all. W.marsh 13:35, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Famous Telugu Brahmins

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This list is not an encyclopedia article, and is contextless, as it has no criteria for inclusion - it's just a list of names, and Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. There may be a problem with POV, as well. The article is more than likely beyond cleanup, as it's fundamentally the same as Famous Kapus. Coredesat talk! 07:25, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

  • PLEASE Delete List of Famous Kammas, Rajus and Brahmins These articles actually list famous people in each caste among people of Indian (Asian) origin who speak Telugu... Think a list which lists famous Telugu people makes sense rather then break them down by CASTE which means nothing outside that state... Not really informational and given the nature of Wikipedia can be manipulated to include anyone deemed important by a reader... There was another page listing Famous Kapus which is essentially another caste that was recently deleted... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.182.43.35 (talk)
  • Do not delete List of Famous Kammas This article provides wealth of information about Kammas who achieved something in Life. Do not delete it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.165.151.178 (talk)
  • Famous Telugu Brahmins should not be deleted When one can have a article listing the names of all nobel laureates, names of presidents of united states of america, etc etc... why cant one have a article which lists the names of all famous telugu brahmins, who have excelled in their respective fields, in my opinion wikipedia should include all such articles which are informatory(though the information may be useful only for few people), this article might be a valuble resource for some one who is keen about knowing more about his community and people who made the community proud.
    • in my opinion wikipedia should include all such articles which are informatory

      Did you miss the people above you pointing out that Wikipedia is not a indiscriminate list of information? NeoChaosX [talk | contribs] 18:17, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

    • The inclusion criteria for lists of nobel laureates and presidents of the United States are not fame. They are being a nobel laureate and being the President of the United States, respectively. Wikipedia is not a forum for caste-vanity. It is an encyclopaedia, and it is neutral. A list of people must have some objective, neutral, criterion for its contents. Uncle G 11:11, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete all, Personally I can't see how this can ever be NPOV, famous in this case is far too subjective. It has plenty of WP:OR throughout and this is a model example for Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information.--Nilfanion (talk) 18:56, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete all per nom. Away with the casteism! There are other such lists of Indian people worth deleting. utcursch | talk 07:38, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment I think a few more got AFDed yesterday, actually. I didn't want to nominate them all in a single AFD due to the controversial nature of these lists. --Coredesat (talk) 15:32, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletions. Bakaman Bakatalk 23:24, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Comment - If they dont have a wikilink, they should be removed.Bakaman Bakatalk 23:24, 1 October 2006 (UTC).

Do not delete List of Famous Kammas The article is a valuable source of information about many Kamma persons, achievers, intellectuals etc. As long as there is no expression of animosity towards others, it is OK to reatin the article. It may need minor changes such as deletion of "not so famous" people.

  • Keep List of Famous Kammas I agree it needs some cleanup. Other than that, it's pretty well done.--Milki 21:32, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Note: AFD header was removed from primary nominated article by User:Lookuman at 14:03 (UTC) 3 October. I have just now restored it. GRBerry 02:22, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete all as lists with no criteria for inclusion that constitute original research. Adequate criteria for inclusion and clear citations could salvage some of these under WP:LISTS, primarily as a development list, but none of these merit keeping. In their current form, Categories are superior. GRBerry 02:25, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom - Ganeshk (talk) 02:41, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Deletion List' If Pages like Kamma and Bramhins have been nominated for deletion then i guess this also should be nominated for Deletion why was this left out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Famous_Reddys —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.140.70.235 (talk • contribs)

    • Comment There's already an AFD for that article. --Coredesat (talk) 18:11, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Please Do not Delete List Of Famous Kammas When we are discussing about a particular caste from a particular state or region, whats wrong with listing the prominent or well known people belonging to that caste? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.231.6.86 (talk)
    • Please be careful editing. You accidentally deleted the header of this discussion. Also, new comments should always go at the bottom or at the bottom of sub-thread if threaded, not at the top. GRBerry 03:04, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
  • DO NOT DELETE THE LIST OF FAMOUS BRAHMINS I do not find any reason as to why wikipedia should delete the list of famous brahmins, the page is informative and none of such kind exists any where else, this is the only platform where people can contribute and the list containing the names of famous brahmins can be updated, in case it is decided to delete this page then pages containing the list of american presidents, list containing the names of nobel prize winners, etc. should also be deleted. I put forth the above argument not just for the sake of argument but to indicate that when such lists exist why cant this list be allowed??? Lookuman 20:12, 7 October 2006 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Lookuman (talk • contribs)
    Note: This is user's third edit. utcursch | talk 07:24, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Please Delete The Lists Of All Castes These pages are dedicated for various castes in india who are trying use wikipedia as a medium to publicize their achievements and a very bad caste momentum in India. I think wikipedia is being totally screwed up with these bloody articles from India. I pity wikipedia.
  • Delete all per nominator, although the same information might work well as a category. Seems like there's sockpuppets on both sides of this one, and I hope they're realise they're only hurting their viewpoint, rather than helping it. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 14:40, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Neutral at this point but bordering on a Weak Delete. I would be curious as to the views of our Indian Wikipedians on this one. Looking at these lists, I don't recognize any of the names but that is just a reflection of my own systematic bias. The few names with Wiki-links are generally informative and the benefit of a list is that encourage articles to be created for other members of the list. At the same time, the concept of a "Famous [caste members]" seems daunting and unmanagable. While there is obviously not a comparison to a US caste, but I can't really imagine seeing an article like Famous Middle-Class Americians or Famous Rednecks on Wikipedia either. I am also concern with the lack of sources for all the articles to verify what makes them "famous". Agne 06:51, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Plus, there's also lack of sources for what makes them Telugu Brahmins. utcursch | talk 07:07, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.