Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Family Guy, season 6 episodes

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Maxim(talk) (contributions) 00:02, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

The arguments for deletion are heavily based in policy. The keep arguments are much weaker, and the fact that they will air defeat WP:CRYSTAL When the episodes air, feel free to recreate it, and/or create redirects right now. --Maxim(talk) (contributions) 00:02, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] McStroke

AfDs for this article:
    McStroke (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

    No sources for anything on these pages. At all. Will (talk) 15:55, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

    Also nominated

    Do not delete. These pages are relatively useless at the moment, but will definitely be filled out once the episodes air. Deleting them now would be pointless, because they would just have to be reinstated when the episodes air, which is only several weeks away. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.41.203.169 (talk) 16:19, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

    1. "These pages are relatively useless at the moment" - yes, which is why they're up for AFD.
    2. "But will definitely be filled out once the episodes air" - WP:ATA#CRYSTAL
    3. "Deleting them now would be pointless" - WP:ATA#CRYSTAL
    4. "Because they would just have to be reinstated when the episodes air" - WP:EPISODE, and the fact these titles are confirmed
    5. "Which is only several weeks away" - Season 7 will start in, no exaggeration, 12 months time. A lot more than several weeks, yes?
    Will (talk) 16:27, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment: Are there any reliable sources for these other than the copyright database (which doesn't appear to backup the claim that these are season six episodes)? If not these should be redirected to the LOE, until such a time a reliable source becomes available to prove the existence of this episode. Matthew 16:29, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Delete and redirect to List of Family Guy episodes. NASCAR Fan24(radio me!) 18:52, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

    They were all given to us by a Greg Colton, one of the main directors for family guy. Same was done with season 5 and all those titles were correct as well if you went back and checked. In that case they were available about a year in advance as well Grande13 20:07, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

    you can't get anymore direct than a firsthand source... Grande13 20:10, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
    Can you make that source public? And don't remove AFD tags. Will (talk) 21:28, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Delete and merge Not notable enough and with no sources. WP:EPISODE. Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake) 21:29, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Redirect the following to the LOE: Stewie Kills Lois, Lois Kills Stewie,McStroke, and Padre de Familia, until a synopsis is provided. All of these are listed in IMDb with release dates. Keep Peter's Daughter as that has a synopsis and air date. Delete the rest until they can be verified.--Sethacus 05:27, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Redirect but don't delete Those of you that don't know what delete and redirect means I will tell you. It means that the history will be lost, and then re-created for redirection. I don't want that to happen, once the sources are available we should keep this. TheBlazikenMaster 14:04, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Keep Stewie Kills Lois as it has been announced [1]. No opinion on the others. DCEdwards1966 14:36, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Weak Keep the episodes are expected, and can generally? be seen listed on TVGuide.com. Also, we have people from the studio as well as someone? having correspondence with the Family Guy director. Miranda 04:44, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
    However, redirect the articles which haven't been aired yet to the list of episodes, but do not delete. Miranda 04:47, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
    • TV Guide doesn't have any epiosdes listed beyond the just aired "Believe it or Not, Joe's Walking on Air". Will (talk) 10:05, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
    Delete until they actually have enough information to warrant a separate page. StuartDD contributions 11:34, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

    ultra-strong mega-keep deleting wud be pointless, the episodes will air soon & these pages show a bit of good info —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.209.235.20 (talk) 13:00, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

    • Until they do it's best to let them be redirects. TheBlazikenMaster 17:59, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
    They are all confirmed titles, although im ok with having redirects for the future episodes that currently have nothing really notable to add to the page besides production code and title. I've done a test redirect of the episode Not All Dogs Go To Heaven, so im guessing this is how we should do the other ones that have no info. Although a few do have info such as Road to Germany, which has a plot, guest stars, director, and parts of the script from a live table read. A few others exist as well, although most near the end have nothing notable to add Grande13 01:02, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
    Again, source? Will (talk) 07:08, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
    Grande13, I did never say they aren't, but until there is something else (other than the titles) confirmed, they should just redirect. TheBlazikenMaster 14:58, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Just redirect the articles and create them again once they air. No one knows what going to happen so there's no need for speculative articles about possible episodes. Especially with no source. WP:V is policy too. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:27, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
    • I oppose this mass deletion nomination on principle alone. It is horribly confusing to lump future episodes for which there is evidence with those for which there is none. I am separating out the one for "Stewie Kills Lois" because it is the most verifiable and the one with the closest airdate. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stewie Kills Lois; those of you with an opinion on this one specifically please make your voice heard there. Cromulent Kwyjibo 21:55, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment Stewie Kills Lois now has several sources. These are just restored, having been deleted a week ago by an IP vandal, hours before this AfD nom. Details here. / edg ☺ ★ 22:41, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment - Stewie Kills Lois removed from nomination due to sources. Will (talk) 23:03, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
    The episodes that have nothing but the title and production episode should be redirected to the main episode list page, while those with more notable information available should be left and expanded on. Although there are only a handful of those that actually have notable info available, so not all should be redirected —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grande13 (talk • contribs) 01:10, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Keep - They will all just be recreated anyway. --Thankyoubaby 23:21, 14 October 2007 (UTC)


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