Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/False statement

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The result of the debate was - kept, rewritten - SimonP 00:12, May 19, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] False statement

Delete- This article is political, not informational. While the concept of a "false statement" in formal logic does deserve to be addressed in an encyclopedia, this article does nothing to enhance our understanding of logical falseness. Come to think of it, "false statement" is also a rather self-explanatory phrase. Emiao 07:07, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

• Keep - false statement is a term which ought to be explained in wikipedia. --Sgkay 07:05, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep concur with Sgkay Klonimus 06:34, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, the meaning of "false statement" is obvious even without an article, and the contents of this article are a political rant. — JIP | Talk 08:42, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, redirect to false, or some subsection of symbolic logic. Radiant_* 09:19, May 12, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. No useful content. We already have a redirect from false to logic. Redirect from this article name is pointless. Andrewa 09:28, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete and rewrite. Potentially interesting subject. Jamyskis 12:48, 12 May 2005 (GMT)
• Delete; the better redirect would be to Lie. JamesMLane 13:22, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete and rewrite per Jamyskis. False statement has connotations that differ from lie. Kweee 14:33, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep as rewritten. DJ Clayworth 20:43, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect to lie. A false statement is a kind of lie. -- BDAbramson ^thimk 21:02, 2005 May 12 (UTC)
  • Not if it's made in good faith. Kappa 23:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
    • D'oh!!! That is very true (e.g. not a false statement). Logic compels me to change to keep. -- BD2412 ^thimkact 22:50, 2005 May 16 (UTC)
• Re User — JIP | Talk : the page appears to have been rewritten as at this daydatetime I can't find the "political rant" -- Abstain --62.25.106.209 07:00, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep as rewritten. Kappa 07:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep as rewritten. --Unfocused 10:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete No matter how good the article, the subject is inherently unencyclopedic. The meaning of 'False statement' and the implications there-in are clear to any english speaker. Gmaxwell 19:31, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Hmmm Plato apparently rejected the possibility of meaningful false statement, but it took him a while [1], maybe because he wasn't an English speaker (LOL). Kappa 19:52, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Oh hush, Plato made no such claim about falsehood within the realm of measurable reality. If the article were discussing falsehood in the context you brought up I would have voted that it be redirected to solipsism where that concept is disussed in depth. However the article isn't about that, it's a (somewhat expanded) dictionary definition. --Gmaxwell 21:12, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
      • So are we discussing the article or the subject? Kappa 21:31, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
        • No article should exist with this title, especially not this article. An article related to the example you cited would only share the name of the article we are talking about VFDing if it were named inappropriately... which is why this article isn't about that subject, and which is why your example isn't a reason to keep the article. Plato was discussing the solipist notion that 'only my mind exists', it's an interesting concept but it's only an interesting concept in the context of discussing solipist reasoning, since it's so throughly disconnected with the rest of the world.--Gmaxwell 05:14, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep valid topic, VfD~=cleanup. Grue 17:57, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete--Heathcliff 04:46, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

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