Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falkner Eggington Courts (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 02:20, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Falkner Eggington Courts

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Apparently this was deleted before for notability, and the original AfD was relisted when the page was recreated. Started a new second AfD nomination as a courtesy. Would have speeded it (db-repost), but I'm not sure of the entire story here and would feel better if it goes through AfD, especially if the article has changed since its original conception. I'm honestly not sure Rackabello 22:43, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

• Yeah, it was probably appropriate to take this to AFD. There's not much, but the bit about it being advertised as the biggest self-catered hall in Europe for a time wasn't in the original article, and that is an assertion to notability. I'm skeptical about why it says "advertised as" and not "is the biggest", but let's see what AFD does. I have restored the old versions to permit those reading the first AFD to see the article then under discussion.--Chaser - T 23:21, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as a non notable student accomodation. Being advertised as something does not change the notability. Nuttah68 16:03, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, because it asserts notability, as suggested by Chaser, and also because the article does contain references. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 16:28, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Well, asserting notability just let's something avoid speedy, but it doesn't establish notability, which is the concept espoused by our various notability guidelines.--Chaser - T 21:43, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete The notability - "...largest self-catered hall at Loughborough University...", "...at one time, was advertised as the largest self catered hall in Europe..." - is rather weak. There are only 25 ghits for "Falkner Eggington" +largest +hall[1] and none appear to be reliable, third party sources. The text itself has been lifted almost word for word from here[2] and here[3] and thus is likely to be a copyvio. The sources are primary sources, i.e. to Loughborough University websites, though it is probably acceptable to use them in this instance. The copyvio issue can be dealt with by editing but I feel the assertation of notability to be weak and without reliable, third-party sources so I lean towards delete. --Malcolmxl5 17:37, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as non-notable: no non-trivial, independent coverage of these halls. Lumping them together to claim notability as the largest in Europe seems like marketing spin on the part of the University: the courts have separate postcodes, and 584 rooms doesn't sound especially large to me. — mholland (talk) 15:18, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

• Delete - asserts notabiliy but no reliable sources to back it up. -- Whpq 16:46, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.