Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falchion (band)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep (yet some reference should be added; merging is at edtior's discretion) - Nabla (talk) 21:07, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Falchion (band)

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Fails WP:MUSIC. No significant third party coverage, awards, national tours, etc. Nv8200p talk 13:18, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

• Weak keep - It seems that a second full-length album has been confirmed as coming out in June (link), which means they fulfill one of the notability requirements of WP:MUSIC. Verifiability may remain a problem, but I'm inclined to leave that question to the Finnish-speakers. --jonny-mt 14:49, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
• Delete: Err ... the notability requirement of WP:MUSIC referenced above states "Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e. an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable)." (emphasis mine) Presuming that this label qualifies, "has released" doesn't mean "will release in a few months." Should this band pass notability standards in the future, there's no reason not to recreate. Right now, there's no criteria upon which to keep.  RGTraynor  17:09, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

I figured someone would challenge me on that ;) Given that this album has been announced by multiple sources and is currently listed for sale (thereby avoiding the WP:CRYSTAL issue), I consider the question of whether it has actually made its way into the hands of fans to be academic--after all, that requirement is in place because it can safely be assumed that non-notable bands would have great difficulty fulfilling it, not because a non-notable band suddenly becomes notable the day their second album goes on sale.

I also considered a merge as suggested by Blackmetalbaz below, but given that this group now (in my opinion) fulfills the notability requirements on its own, I'm leaning towards letting it have its own article. --jonny-mt 03:45, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

• Keep WP:MUSIC also states, "Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable; note that it is often most appropriate to use redirects in place of articles on side projects, early bands and such." So keep or merge with Korpiklaani. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 20:24, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep Massacre Records is a well known label, maybe the article needs some references. Keep or merge with Korpiklaani. Tirpes (talk) 05:08, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.