Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Facepalm

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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(That's a delete.) east.718 at 00:42, January 13, 2008

[edit] Facepalm

Facepalm (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Non-notable. Floaterfluss ^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:18, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

• Redirect to 4chan, common meme there. --Merovingian (T, C) 02:19, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
• Delete as minor web meme, as the article itself admits. Pretty unlikely there would ever be anything close to a non-trivial reliable source. I disagree with redirection for two primary reasons: this doesn't seem confined to 4chan, and I don't see the point of redirecting to an article that doesn't even mention it (not that I'm suggesting it should be added). Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 02:47, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Facepalm more or less came out of 4chan. (see the Encyclopedia Dramatica article "Facepalm") Also, there are a lot of other things not mentioned in the article that redirect to it. ([1]) --Merovingian (T, C) 03:01, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
    • That's complete rubbish. People were slapping their foreheads with the palms of their hands long before the World Wide Web even existed. This is an example of why Encyclopedia Dramatica isn't a reliable source. Try books, as below. Uncle G (talk) 03:23, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
      • I didn't say ED was a reliable source, but the term itself is a distinct neologism. Would you rather it be redirect to disgust or annoyance? --Merovingian (T, C) 03:37, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
  • I'm sure that several silent comedians have used it. ☺ What the sources, such as ISBN 0810808633 and ISBN 0471183423, tell us is that there are a lot of meanings to slapping the palm of one's hand to one's forehead, including concentration, emphasis, self-annoyance, and dismay. It's verifiably an entry in a list of gestures. Let's not claim that this is some sort of Internet meme. The Internet didn't invent this. Uncle G (talk) 03:23, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
    • I'm not saying it did. Rather, there is, I think, a difference between the gesture and the humorous Internet representation. I don't wish to discuss the matter further, though. Do whatever you want with it. --Merovingian (T, C) 03:37, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
• Delete or Redirect to meme. While it may or may not have come out of 4chan, it is incredibly widespread now, and simply pointing the reader to 4chan won't tell them anything. At least by pointing them to meme, they'll know that it's a meme. - Koweja (talk) 03:40, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

• O RLY is notable. Most 4chan memes are not, because there are no reliable sources about them, and many have been salted to prevent creation after multiple deletions. See Happy Negro, Cockmongler, Pedobear, An hero, Rule 34, LOL WUT, and so on.--h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 10:16, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

• Delete - WP:NOT#DICTIONARY. LonelyBeacon (talk) 04:55, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
• Delete. Agree with Uncle G. This is not a meme as 4chan or the internet certainly did not invent the gesture. It is simply internet slang for a common human gesture. --Dhartung | Talk 06:53, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. -- the wub "?!" 12:30, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
• Delete per headdesk. If there were anywhere to point it I would possibly say "redirect per fapfapfap" - TheBilly^Talk 15:09, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
• Delete. Common human gesture, has been taken on by 4chan, but no reliable sources seem to exist. It might be a notable topic as a gesture under a different name, though, if anyone wants to do any research on the subject.--h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 07:20, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.