Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Estrella Falls

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The result was Keep Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 00:29, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Estrella Falls

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I'm aware of the general controversy/debate about the notability of malls but this one won't even open for another two years. No evidence of notability. TRAVELLINGCARI^{My story}_{Tell me yours} 22:11, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

• Keep The fact that it won't open for a while seems to be immaterial. I did find this and this which seem to be decent sources. Also, given the sheer size of the mall (it's not just a mall actually; there will be residential space and a hotel), it's very likely to be even more notable when it opens. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 22:24, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

• Comment I have rewritten the page and added these refs. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 22:29, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Malls-related deletion discussions. -- Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 22:30, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
• Delete WP:CRYSTAL and notability issues RogueNinja_talk 22:53, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

• I don't think it's WP:CRYSTAL at all; several of the tenants have been verified in the two sources I dug up. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 22:55, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

It might have notability in the future. Right now, it does not. RogueNinja_talk 23:02, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

• Keep - This appears to be the subject of secondary sources and not WP:CRYSTAL as it is verified. --Oakshade (talk) 01:53, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
• Delete If it opens, it can be considered for an article. That its opening has been delayed until two years hence suggests that it may never open. Mangoe (talk) 03:58, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep - seems to have satisfied the "A topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" portion of WP:N. Exit2DOS2000^•T•C• 05:53, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

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