Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Erebus (Band)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Sr13 04:12, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Erebus (Band)

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Non-notable band, unsourced. --Finngall talk 21:56, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete as original speedy-deleter. Being "the only progressive death metal band in Clarksville, TN" doesn't make a band worthy of inclusion IMO. No sources for this assertion, either. NawlinWiki 21:58, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete A7, non notable band. No claims. Ten Pound Hammer • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 21:58, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Speedy had previously been declined due to assertion of notability per criteria 7 and 9 of WP:MUSIC. --Finngall talk 22:03, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
  • The key factor is, the assertion of notability, in this case WP:MUSIC #7 & #9, is enough to invalidate the speedy deletion of the article and force a fuller examination of the notability issues via AFD. And that fuller examination is exactly what is going on here - TexasAndroid 14:20, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Hello,

Unfortunatley I do not see where in rule #7 does it state what city you must be from, for reference:

7. Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or of the local scene of a city;

Although I am not sure how to "prove" this, I am working on going through my articles to cite that we have won the Battle of the Bands for City of Clarksville, TN.

This also helps us to establish rule # 9, again for reference;

9. Has won or placed in a major music competition.

Which would also give this band the right to have a page on wiki, which will be referenced fairly soon, just have to get the article out and look up the date and author.

What else can I do at this time to help keep this page. Thanks ChaseDCox 01:30, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Chase, you would need to find material from independent sources supporting the article such as reviews of the album, independent news reports about the band, etc. Winning the Clarksville battle of the bands is not considered to be a major music competition which is more like winning a Grammy or similar event. Similarly, a local scene has to have a wider reputation such as grunge in Seattle, soul in Detroit etc. 'Delete unless this is provided. Capitalistroadster 02:32, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Understood, but major is not defined as being any of those things, as well as not being specified that you have to be as large as Motown or Grunge, which is absurd that you expect something that large. I will have evidence that supports their significance in the community, and I then expect to have this matter dropped. ChaseDCox 03:54, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Also, is it worth referencing that their music is in the Library of Congress? ChaseDCox 04:05, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete. A local battle of the bands does not qualify as a major music competition, and I have not seen evidence that Erebus has met any other WP:MUSIC criteria. The article has no sources other than a link to the Wikipedia article about the mythological figure Erebus. I also looked at the Library of Congress online catalog and did not see any listings for this band's recordings being in the collection there. --Metropolitan90 05:27, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - No viable assertion of notability. "World famous all over Clarksville and Ft. Campbell" doesn't cut it. The article is poorly written, NPOV violating, and quotes another Wikipedia article at far too extensive a length. Sorry, Chase, they're just not notable. --Orange Mike 12:57, 26 July 2007 (UTC)


    • It is not defined on this site as what a major competition is. It is also required to meet only one requirement from the WP:MUSIC, which they have. ChaseDCox 13:00, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
  • "Major" may be subject to discussion and the consensus of the community, but until there is even verified evidence that any competitions have been won, or any of the criteria in WP:MUSIC have been met, then arguing those points is not going to hold any water. In short, you need references that are independent of the band's own productions and publications to establish these things... until then I'll have to go with Delete also, since without them the article violates the Wikipedia policy of WP:VERIFY. ◄Zahakiel► 17:14, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Delete I will just use a user page for this. If that is ok. So that I can take my time to edit everything. I will contact an admin when I am ready to have it looked over, thanks. Erebus Band 04:57, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Delete I will just use a user page for this. If that is ok. So that I can take my time to edit everything. I will contact an admin when I am ready to have it looked over. I obviously did not understand what it took to make a wiki page, but I am learning. If I could use my personal page to edit and update this article for the band erebus It would be greatly appreciated. THanks. ChaseDCox 20:03, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.