Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Epic metal (2nd nomination)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete but due the incoming links I am going to redirect this to Power metal. Someone with more knowledge about the topic should look at the articles listing a band's genre as "Epic metal" and address appropriately. W.marsh 18:01, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Epic metal
Not a notable subgenre, totally unsourced original research, badly written and confusing (what is the difference between "trapitional epic metal" and "power metal" epic metal?!), contains no information that isn't already in other articles (power metal for example). Article was previously nominated for AFD, result was no consensus (5 delete, 4 keep). IronChris | (talk) 15:15, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Agree that Epic Metal is not its own subgenre. Bands are often listed as "Epic Power Metal" or "Epic Heavy Metal," but very rarely (or consistently) as simply "Epic Metal." The characteristics listed on the page are too vague too constitute a seperate subgenre. More of a 'sub-subgenre' than anything else.
- Delete. Radagast1983 18:31, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
"Epic" is used as a frequent descriptor for styles of metal, but I've rarely seen it by itself or even associated with power metal.
- Delete. --Ryouga 21:40, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. Epic metal is not a subgenere, IMO. It's a term that could describe any metal subgenere - epic black metal, epic doom metal, epic power metal, ect. Skeletor2112 05:04, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. The confusion of 'epic power metal', 'epic black metal' and so on comes because the epic tag is often misapplied to bands that use an epic style of lyrics. Epic metal itself is a legitimate subgenre of heavy metal; bands like Manilla Road, Feanor and Cirith Ungol have a distinctive sound that doesn't fit into the other subgenres. AGGoH 07:40, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. Unverifiable and not very notable characteristic. Prolog 07:59, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. Epic metal is like Viking metal: there is no specific style, and it's a broad term that can include a lot of bands from different subgenres, but they all have one thing in common: an epic feel. Same as all Viking metal bands have Viking lyrics/imagery or whatever. The article definitely needs a rewrite though. It shouldn't be deleted though. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TheguX (talk • contribs).
- Keep Same reasons as user AGGoH Johhny-turbo 02:08, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
- Delete much, much too vague. Not commonly used in metal circles in my experience as an actual genre or movement. Just a description, like "hobbit metal," "love metal" or somesuch. Ours18 06:07, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
- Delete This is the MOST inaccurate description of Epic Metal i have ever seen/ heard. This section needs to be totally re written, whoever wrote this has no clue... and whoever Deleted Manowar is a total idiot... They are one of the quintessentially 'Epic Metal' bands.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.66.200.1 (talk • contribs).
- Delete. Inadequately referenced. WMMartin 22:20, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Deizio talk 13:22, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
- Reluctant to delete because this is linked to as a genre description mostly by 50+ articles. Would somewhat compromise the quality of articles to delete this without a lot of work to reclassify those other articles. --W.marsh 03:58, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
