Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/English Potato Famine

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Redirect to European Potato Famine... and then speedy deleted by User:Fram as an A3 (unlikely redirect). Non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 13:38, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] English Potato Famine

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Unverifiable. There are only 8 Google hits for this term, only two of which are independent of Wikipedia[1]. More damning, there are no Google Scholar hits for this term[2], nor Google Books[3]. Combined with the fact that the next article created by this author, Rijk Van Roog, is a clear hoax, I propose that we delete this article. Fram (talk) 08:42, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

  • Speedy delete as a hoax. This is either an inept bit of point-scoring or (more likely) simple trolling. --Folantin (talk) 09:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
  • No hoax - Keep then merge with newly created article - "English Potato Famine" is no hoax (as neither is the Dutch Potato Famine of the same time). Potato famine struck throughout north-western Europe in the mid 1840's. However, in comparison to the Irish experience, the effects elsewhere were to create a food crisis, rarely verging on a true famine. An exception to ex-Ireland Europe are the Scottish Highlands, however, which deserve special treatment as they were particularly harshly struck, and the social/economics effects of the crisis were destroying for the Highlands. The topic would be better treated as three articles: Irish Potato Famine, Highland Potato Famine, and European Potato Famine. I had proposed to start the latter article before. I suggest that Cornish Potato Famine and English Potato Famine be merged into that, as they stand no realistic chance of becoming more than just stubs and would be better treated in the pan-European context. --sony-youthpléigh 11:32, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
    • There was famine everywhere, but do you have any evidence (reliable sources, that is) that the "English Potato Famine" is ever called thus? If not, can you point to some sources (historical books, scientific journals, ...) that discuss this potato famine in England? A it stands, it is unsourced and has a title that is unused elsewhere, so turning it into a redirect would still serve no purpose. Fram (talk) 11:41, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment. I'll not close this, as I may seem to be too involved in this by now, but the article should be deleted as a copyright violation of Cornish Potato Famine (thanks to Sony-Youth for bringing this indirectly to my attention). Fram (talk) 11:45, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
It's not possible to copyvio a Wikipedia article given that WP articles are GFDL-tagged...... ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:05, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Oh, it's perfectly possible to copyvio, since the GFDL requires attribution, and none has been given here. Please see Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content. Fram (talk) 12:26, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.