Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Emma Carroll

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Nom withdrawn. PeaceNT (talk) 15:29, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Emma Carroll

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Used to be the oldest person living in Iowa is the only claim to notability. In addition to this being insanely specific, notability is not temporary. Smashville^BONK! 23:16, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

• Very Weak Keep notability not being temporary means that if she was once notable, she remains notable. and therefore would lead to a keep, but whether oldest in a state rather than a nation is sufficient is admittedly borderline. DGG (talk) 23:24, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
  • I'm also going on the opinion that oldest in a state is not sufficient. --Smashville^BONK! 00:07, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per her media coverage. Epbr123 23:44, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
  • What media coverage? I see two obituaries, a geocities page and a church newsletter. --Smashville^BONK! 00:07, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
    • One of the news stories covering her death states, "She has been a frequent subject of media coverage". Epbr123 00:29, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
      • Can you find any of them? I can't... --Smashville^BONK! 20:49, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Guiness Book of Records entry establishes notablitly.Hammer1980·^talk 01:11, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

• Given that the same person created both the article and the entry in Guinness sort of affects the independence I would have thought. ---- WebHamster 01:20, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

• • Wghere does it show that ? Hammer1980·^talk 15:57, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

• Where does it show what? The article's creator or the "senior gerontology consultant" for the GBoWR? ---- WebHamster 16:47, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

• Where is this "Guinness Book of World Records" entry? "Oldest person to ride in a hot air-balloon?" That is seriously the most obscure record I may have ever heard... --Smashville^BONK! 20:49, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

• Delete: If she had been the oldest in the country then that would be a different matter, but oldest in a state? When we run out of states will it be the oldest in town next? Is this Wikipedia or RYoung's personal version of the Guinness Book of World Records? ---- WebHamster 01:16, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Notable and verifiable. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 01:20, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
  • How is she notable and where are these sources? All that exist that I can tell is her obituary. --Smashville^BONK! 20:51, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
• Keep A longer article is justified but thats not Emma's fault.Victuallers 09:47, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Notable and verifiable. Rray 00:14, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
• Keep + comments Can I just point out that a couple hours ago, the Marie-Rose Mueller AfD was just finished as 'keep,' and she was highly noted for only being the 2nd oldest person in the U.S. state of Connecticut, at 111. Now we see Emma Carroll is 112 and oldest in state. Plus 2 other nobilities, she sets the world record for the person to ride in a hot air balloon, and their combined age of her and her spouse of 212 years. Neal 11:47, 16 November 2007 (UTC).
• Withdraw Nom. Apparently it looks like the consensus is that merely being really old is enough to meet WP:BIO. --Smashville^BONK! 16:45, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Statistician (talk) 00:42, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Oldest in a state, several other records associated with her longevity, cited references. Other bios have been accepted Marie-Rose Mueller for example that have not been as well cited or as with as many records associated. Jbarco (talk) 04:05, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

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