Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Emiliano Bucci

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus. Waltontalk 14:18, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Emiliano Bucci

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I'm not even sure this article asserts notability, but I could use help wading through the broken English and the (mainly Italian, and not terribly impressive from what I can tell) google results I'm getting. Claims to be a music teacher, composer, musicologist, etc. but none of it seems to add up to much. Calliopejen1 17:31, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep I speak some Italian, and Emiliano is a known figure in the Italian arts and appears to have significant Italian publicity. Maybe he is not notable in America, but neither is many other European pianists and composers. Culturally and artistically notable. The article's English can be fixed, though. --David Andreas 19:33, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Ultra Keep The article just need some clean up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamhungey (talk • contribs)
  • Weak keep per User:Phonemic, he seems notable enough in Italy. If insufficient English sources are found, I'd suggest moving this to the Italian Wikipedia. Ten Pound Hammer • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 21:58, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 06:05, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Italy-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 06:05, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment FWIW, only 317 hits on google.it. Does not seem remotely notable to me but the article is so poorly written that it's difficult to judge. Perhaps reconsider for AfD if appropriate after it's cleaned up.--RandomHumanoid(⇒) 19:27, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete: I don't want to make a firm recommendation so long as RILM is on yet another of its "Down for Server Maintenance" binges, but I can't see anything so far that passes as notable in the article. There are no notable concerts as a pianist, no notable conservatory posts as an instructor of piano. I can't find any peer reviewed music articles in JSTOR--granted, JSTOR is five years out of date and barely covers anything in Italian, which could completely wipe out Bucci's contributions; RILM itself takes a few years to index the Italian journals and books. Concur with RandomHumanoid's ghits assessment (many of the 317 hits are for other Emiliano Buccis). Could David Andreas add some of the Italian publicity? I know that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, but at this point I've done due diligence in searching off WP for notability and couldn't find anything. Given that the article does not assert notability via awards, positions, peer-reviewed publications, or notable albums on which he was sound engineer, I don't think I can come up with any other conclusion than delete. -- Myke Cuthbert (talk) 21:01, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment -- no entries in RILM, but I did searches for five Italian papers published in the last five years in RILM and it only had one of them, so it's not the be all end all of search engines. But I also think that Wales's "Quality over Quantity" 2006 dictum can apply to the deletion of an article which is not yet really in English and for which no one here or there has volunteered to cleanup. -- Myke Cuthbert (talk) 18:56, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.