Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eliza Orlins

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 14:59, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Eliza Orlins

Delete vanity page, WP:BIO. Being a contestant on Survivor does not impart Notability. - CrazyRussian talk/email 20:24, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

• • Also, copyvio from [1]. - CrazyRussian talk/email 18:13, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
    • One could argue that facts about a person such as where they lived, went to school, etc. are not protected by copyright law including facts presented on the CBS website bio page for the subject. FeelsLikeHome 19:07, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

• Delete obviously real and the attempt at "fame" does exist. However, I'm not certain of meeting WP:BIO[2]. Also, if she met said guideline, I don't think she would merit an article since her importance is just in the show and there is nothing to show that she is noted or important outside of the scope. There appears to be no heavy coverage or real interest by the media. Yanksox 03:48, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep per WP:BIO. Involvement in hit national TV show, and substantial media attention, easily qualify this person as she was a major player on her season. There is a regular precedent to keep comparable contestants on national hit reality TV shows -- The majority of the other seasons of this show have all members of the "Final 4" with a wiki entry and having an entry for this person eliminates redlinks in other articles. Also "Eliza Orlins" in a google search turns up over 11,000 hits. FeelsLikeHome 17:42, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

 AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Mailer Diablo 23:16, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - In summary her only notability is winning a car on a multipart game show in which she came 4th - Not at all notable - Peripitus (Talk) 07:47, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - thousands of people have won prizes on game shows, but they don't have articles on WP, so whats different here? Martinp23 14:42, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete NCurse _work 21:28, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nomMusaabdulrashid 07:26, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete The entry itself shows how un-noteworthy it is. It reads like a MySpace page more than a noteable person. Eliza's achieved some cool stuff, but just because she was on a reality show (and not even the runner-up) doesn't make her study abroad and sorority activities, nor her father's achievements, meritorious of inclusion into an encylopedia. It definitely doesn't meet the criteria in the Bio for entertainment or television personalities:
  • Multiple features in popular culture publications such as Vogue, GQ, Elle, FHM or national newspapers
  • A large fan base, fan listing or "cult" following
  • An independent biography
  • Name recognition
  • Commercial endorsements —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DavidShankBone (talk • contribs) .
• Delete per NN. Tony the Marine 02:54, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I've started a discussion section on the Deletion Policy page regarding reality television contestants. My main point is this: the ABC.com homepage does a perfectly fine job of sorting out who is a contestant, and their background. Jimmy Wales stated we should focus on quality, not quantity. What is it that these entries give to the internet that is not already covered by their homepages for the game shows?

Here's a link to the discussion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Deletion_policy#Reality_Telvision_Contestants

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.