Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elina Taalasmaa
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep See rationale and suggestions at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seppo Taalasmaa. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 21:13, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Elina Taalasmaa
Article about a fictional character of a soap opera. It has no real world information. It fails guidelines for WP:SOAPS Magioladitis (talk) 16:17, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional characters-related deletion discussions. —Magioladitis (talk) 21:51, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- NOTE - The nom is attempting to delete every character article of the popular Finnish TV show Salatut elämät.-Oakshade (talk) 03:33, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Merge a summary onto List of actors on Salatut elämät.—RJH (talk) 01:18, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Keep - Consensus has long since decided fictional character articles, including in soap operas, can be included. Major character in long running national soap opera. WikiProject Soap Operas (WP:SOAPS) is not a notability guideline, but a project improvement page and in no manner mandates article deletions. If you feel the article should be improved, a wiki-improvement tag is more appropriate, not article deletion. There's too much subject specific information here to merge.--Oakshade (talk) 03:42, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Delete I disagree Oakshade. Those aspects of WP:FICT which expand upon WP:NOT#PLOT are essentially an extension of consensus policy. There is general agreement that purely {{in-universe}} content is inappropriate for Wikipedia. Eusebeus (talk) 13:33, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Finland-related deletion discussions.
- Comment The list of characters can be converted to something like the List of Family Affairs characters. Separate articles cannot be supported without any real world information. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:34, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:PLOT (too little real-world context) and WP:N and WP:V (multiple independent secondary sources giving significant coverage are needed to demonstrate notability and to allow the reader to verify the content). Jakew (talk) 19:53, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- keep or Merge or redirect, depending on the importance of the character, but since a character might be a search term, the one thing that should not be done is delete. Spin out for major characters is still acceptable-- WP:SOAPS is only a project. I would like to see evidence first that someone with access to Finnish language sources has at least looked for them. DGG (talk) 00:26, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
- Keep, the character appeared on the show for 9 years. I'm not sure exactly what part of WP:SOAPS this article fails. Even if this article did fail parts of WP:SOAPS, it's a guideline for a WikiProject, not Wikipedia as a whole. What real world information do you want the article to have? --Pixelface (talk) 15:07, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
- Delete per Jakew. His rationale is virtually the same as mine. Doctorfluffy (robe and wizard hat) 04:26, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
- Keep per Pixelface. ,,n (talk) 15:57, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fabrictramp (talk) 23:16, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
