Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ekspreso (second nomination)

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The result was delete. --Coredesat 01:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ekspreso

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Interlanguage links notwithstanding, this Interlingua derivative isn't even been given a comprehensive overview somewhere, or even an outline of a grammar, to speak nothing of the claim of notability. -- Dissident (Talk) 03:06, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

• Delete. No claim of notability, nor do searches for "ekspreso" seem to produce much. semper fictilis 03:49, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, per WP:NOT a dictionary. Seems like WP:OR and possibly WP:NEO. Mkdw^talk 08:37, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, no indication of notablility and no sources, nor any obvious sources available. Nuttah68 20:35, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Non-notable; lack of indication of number of speakers is telling. Frickeg 01:37, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. I did a google search for Ekspreso and found more than 50,000 entries in several diverse languages, including articles in at least five different Wikipedias, [www.cafepress.com/ekspreso/ this site] where clothing and other Ekspreso merchandise is sold, and a translation at the Babel site.

The article is simply a description of the language, I honestly don't know how it could be considered original research (OR). I'm familiar enough with Ekspreso to know that the name is not a neologism (NEO). I've known about Ekspreso for years, and it is a genuine auxiliary language that has been seriously discussed on several newsgroups. Is it well constructed - see for example the Babel text - and is better known than many other auxiliary languages. The number of speakers is unknown and probably small, but that's also true of Latino sine Flexione and Occidental, two important auxiliary languages.

As to notability, Ekspreso is the only language I know of that was designed for people in a hurry. It is also one of the few Interlingua derivatives. This can be clarified in the article. Regarding sources, the third external link is obviously the source of much of the article. It doesn't contain a comprehensive description, but it does briefly describe the language. In any case, Wikipedia policy is that unsourced articles should be sourced, not deleted. Finally, there may very well be comprehensive information available offline or in one of the many websites I found.

A note of caution - right now, the main Interlingua article contains quite a bit of misleading and incorrect information. For example, Interlingua isn't a constructed or designed language, as Alexander Gode's Manifesto de Interlingua makes clear. If you read the article, please be cautious, and back up your reading with more reliable sources. Matt 18:55, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

• Comment. There may be several constructed languages with the name Ekspreso, or some variant of the spelling. I remember seeing one mentioned in Mario Pei's One Language for the World, which I have lying about here somewhere. Since the Pei book appeared in the late 1950s, it is unlikely to refer to a conlang made in 1996. The name is not all that original. - Smerdis of Tlön 21:06, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.