Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Egg Sandwich

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Keep, following the alterations. Rje 11:43, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Egg Sandwich

Utterly, utterly non-notable. Robin Johnson 08:55, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

  • Keep, real kind of sandwich, as notable (or non-notable, take your pick) as any other listed at Category:Sandwiches. Gsearch for "Egg sandwich" gives 182,000 results. Upon further review, there already exist other articles more descriptive to this kind of sandwich (i.e. Fried egg sandwich). Therefore Delete this one and redirect appears appropriate indeed. Phaedriel ♥ tell me - 09:07, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment: Isn't "egg sandwich" broader in scope than "fried egg sandwich"? I'd merge fried egg sandwich into this one instead. Kimchi.sg 14:38, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
    • I'm not claiming that egg sandwiches don't exist, I'm claiming they are in no way a significant, interesting, or encyclopedic subject. Robin Johnson 09:15, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Reyk YO! 10:09, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Unencylopedic article of the foo is x variety (article can be condensed thus - "An egg sandwich is a sandwich made with eggs"). --kingboyk 10:10, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete This is not a notable type of sandwich, as Club sandwich, merely a description of a possible filling for a sandwich.  (aeropagitica)  (talk)  10:18, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. Besides, it doesn't mention the proper egg sandwich, which has mashed boiled eggs. JPD (talk) 10:33, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Nah, mashed boiled eggs with salad cream and beetroot. That's a sandwich. Double fried egg in soft bap, that's a sandwich. Sorry, what were we talking about again? Deleting this article? Oh, OK then. Request nominator to have a good look over and thorough clear out of the Sandwiches category - so many articles combining dicdef and nn content.Vizjim 11:03, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Changing vote as I've just had a thought. Alter to Delete and redirect to prevent this article being recreated. Vizjim 11:04, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Now I'm hungry. Vizjim 11:04, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. I do not object to redirecting it to Fried egg sandwich. PJM 11:26, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Fried egg sandwich is pretty stubby. I'd rather see a single article covering fried egg sandwiches, egg salad sandwiches, the Egg McMuffin and its "breakfast sandwich" ilk, sliced hard-boiled-egg sandwiches and so forth... with the individual kinds of egg sandwiches redirecting to the combined article. Dpbsmith (talk) 15:25, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • If it is kept, Move to Egg sandwich. Though I'd go with Delete – Gurch 11:44, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete nothing here which is not inherently obvious from the words "egg" and "sandwich". Just zis Guy you know? 11:51, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Merged? Good call. Two marginally encyclopaedic topics into one encyclopaedic one :-) Just zis Guy you know? 17:02, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete A egg sandwich is a sandwich with some kind of egg filling just to clearly distinguish it from An egg with some kind of sandwich filling ? Keep the rewrite. Dlyons493 Talk 12:40, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Possibly one of the most vague articles I've seen. ~~ Brother William 13:36, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep (but move to Egg sandwich). The article is awful, but the topic, which is what is under consideration in AfD, is encyclopedic enough. A Google Books search on "fried egg sandwich" turns up 270 hits, which, if you're familiar with Google Books, is reasonably impressive and suggests some cultural importance. One of them, Omaha's Easter Tornado of 1913, shows a picture of militiamen in slickers, preparing to "patrol the stricken area on a frigid day," and notes that "a typical breakfast consisted of a fried-egg sandwich, a hard-boiled egg, and coffee." A 1902 cookbook gives recipes for a variety of egg sandwiches made with sliced hard-boiled eggs. A search on "Egg salad sandwich, surely a form of egg sandwich, yields 570 hits, many with nostalgic or comfort-food associations. The Egg McMuffin gets 472 hits in its own right and was of some importance in opening up McDonald's to the breakfast trade. Dpbsmith (talk) 14:13, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
We already have fried egg sandwich though... 15:40, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak keep and rewrite per Dpbsmith. Needs to be reworded out of its current tautological state. Kimchi.sg 14:38, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge to Sandwich. P.S. What about an article on "Cucumber and Eggy Pies"? If you know what I am talking about, smile. If not, see the first BJAODN. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 14:43, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Merge what, exactly? Should there be a line in sandwich saying "If a sandwich contains eggs, it is an egg sandwich"? Robin Johnson 14:53, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment i've added some stuff... Dpbsmith (talk) 15:37, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong keep with Dpbsmith's excellent alterations. Vizjim 16:10, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: Was Egg McMuffin merged into this article in an attempt to save the Egg Sandwich article? --Takeel 16:44, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Not by me. The content I added began with the phrase "This trademarked McDonald's egg sandwich..." and was not part of the Egg McMuffin article. Dpbsmith (talk) 20:22, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep as per Vizjim. Nice job, Dpbsmith. -- stubblyhead | T/c 16:54, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep There could potentially be lots of discussions of health, culture, cuisine.... jbolden1517Talk 16:55, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong Strong Keep!!! There may be some larger questions as to how organize food articles but there certainly are other individual sandwich articles. Check out category:sandwiches Egg sandwiches are common diner food all across america and more notable than many sandwiches with articles (such as Fried-brain sandwich). I am usually ready to delete anything with little thought but this seems like a mistaken nomination. At the very least it should be merged into sandwich along with the other 50 sandwiches but I'm not sure that would be the best organization. There are undoubtibly people (maybe some here) who have never had one and to whom this article would be informative.--Nick Y. 19:49, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep notable type of sandwich, with history, varieties etc. Important part of American cuisine. Needs to include Fried egg sandwich. Crum375 21:04, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep per Vizjim. Excellent modifications by Dpbsmith. -- Irixman (t) (m) 01:12, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong Delete or Transwiki to Wiki Cookbook Interesting - I sort of like the article and I really like egg sandwiches but at the same time feel passionately and violently in favour of this article's deletion. What a fascinating sensation. Not notable or important as a piece of cuisine. Are we going to create articles for every variety of sandwich, flavour of potato crisps/chips, different pizza topping etc. etc. etc.? Hmmmm...maybe this could be transwikied to Wiki Cookbook? Actually, I think all or most of the articles in category:sandwiches should be move to Wiki Cookbook. and I feel passionately and violently about it. Bwithh 01:42, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
  • I agree that a consistent general policy is needed re food dishes or sandwiches - maybe someone knows what it is? I notice Eggs benedict has a nice article Crum375 13:03, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
  • There is a strong consensus has been that recipes go into Wikibooks, not because they are food, but because they are how-to's and the current consensus is that how-to's don't belong in Wikipedia. AFAIK there's no objection to articles on food or food items just because they are food items. It all comes down to the usual question of importance, how much can be written about them, how much verifiable, published material there is (as opposed to personal essays, or even collaborative personal essays). Obviously Big Mac as legitimate, and so is hamburger and cheesesteak. I'm rather pleased by what happened to Pea soup which was nominated for deletion at one point. Egg sandwich is admittedly borderline, but for me it's on the "keep" side of the border.Dpbsmith (talk) 02:23, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. I've removed PROD tags from this article twice, so don't count me as an independent opinion. That said, I think egg sandwiches are notable and encyclopedic. Recipes themselves should be transwikied to Wiki Cookbook; but in my opinion, even people who have no interest in making egg sandwiches themselves might still want to read about them. --Allen 00:12, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Very week keep in light of the changes to the article since I nominated it. (In fact, if it survives, I support redirecting Fried egg sandwich here.) If I found the article as it is, I wouldn't have prodded or AfD'd it. But I'm still not really convinced. Robin Johnson 14:30, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong keep. There are lots of other articles about different kinds of sandwiches. Why pick on this one? Dr.frog 00:38, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, all food is notable for a truly great encyclopædia.

Grue is the name of a high protein oatmeal-based concoction used in Arkansan prisons for punishment rations- edible and nourishing, but revolting.  Grue  14:12, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

  • Weak keep per Dr. Frogs argument. Egg Sandwich, albeit with toppings of crunchy bacon, is known worldwide as the cure for hangover. But seriously, if we can have Ketchup on hot dogs, why not Egg Sandwich.--Ezeu 20:21, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep GassyGuy 23:03, 23 May 2006 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.