Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Effie White

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge both to Dreamgirls. Sandstein 16:44, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Effie White

Effie White (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Also nominating: Deena Jones (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs).

Dreamgirls is a great play and movie and all, but there's nothing here about either character that isn't or shouldn't be included in the articles on the musical or the Dreamgirls movie. I'd say redirect both to Dreamgirls. FuriousFreddy 03:54, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Merge, I agree, unless the parent article gets extravagantly long, there's no reason to start creating tons of daughter articles.-Dmz5*Edits**Talk* 04:13, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  • The charatcers are now somewhat more in the public eye than before due to the film and the oscar nominations, I say both should stay, as the creator of Effie White's page, I needed information on the character and had to seek it out from multiple sources, surely wikipedia is about gathering information and sorting it out in one place? I think it should stay! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Flamer on (talk • contribs) 11:56, 6 February 2007 (UTC).
    • If it were to stay, it would need to be throughly re-written. It basically repeats information from the plot summary. An article on the character(s) should detail their creation and development, their particular character personality traits, and, in the cases of these two characters, how they relate to their real-life counterparts, Florence Ballard and Diana Ross. --FuriousFreddy 17:52, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  • I'd Keep The Effie White page, as the main character of a major movie. This character is the type who has already developed amongst at least Americans (I cant speak for anyone else) as a reference; i.e. her situation was like Effie Whites. Someone who dosnt know what that means will want to look her up. Finally, I know this is not a valid argument to make but we do have a page on Philip J. Fry.--CastAStone|(talk) 17:40, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge per Dmz5-MsHyde 18:21, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
  • I have now personally written a whole section about the comparison between Florence Ballard and Effie White. Hopefully now, the page will stay. I agree the first part needs some editing down (the part about Effies role in Dreamgirls) but I think in a whole this page is important - seeing as Margot Verger has a page, and she is only a character in the book version of Hannibal, surely someone as influential and motivational as Effie should stay! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Flamer on (talk • contribs) 20:48, 6 February 2007 (UTC).
    • The article doesn't have the right tone - it reads like a fanpage, and is full of original research and what could be described as fancruft. You might want to review the Manual of Style, because that linked Philip J. Fry article isn't much better. --FuriousFreddy 03:13, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete as duplication of content from the parent article mixed with original research. This maybe could be rewritten to pass WP:FICT, but I would honestly prefer a page on Characters of Dreamgirls or some such than for Deena Jones, Effie White, etc. to get individual pages when there's only so much to be said. GassyGuy 06:26, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Avi 15:45, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.