Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edwin de Kock

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. --Coredesat 04:31, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edwin de Kock

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This is my first "Article for deletion" so please let me know if I've got it wrong!

I found this article via the "Random article" thing on the left. It appears to be about a teacher-slash-spiritual-preacher. I googled for his name and turned up nothing. None of his published works have Wikipedia articles. There's nothing in his article to say why he is significant in his area of expertise. It reads almost like he wrote it himself - it's full of stuff about his personal opinions and beliefs that aren't really relevant or of interest to a reader. I think that if you cut all the garbage you'd be left with about 2 lines of text, heh. This article just makes me ask "Why should we care?" because he doesn't appear to have got any recognition for his works excepting being made an honorary member of the World Esperanto Association (which, as an organisation about speaking the language "Esperanto", isn't really related to his work). Thanks for your time! Backsigns 12:35, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete I can't find any decent sources on him. Article doesn't really assert his notability, it mostly concerns itself with explaining his religious and personal beliefs, making it read like a vanity article. I can't find his books online, either. Even if everything in the article is true, I don't think he passes notability guidelines. faithless (speak) 13:00, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete His book apparently exists ([1]) but that doesn't make him automatically notable. If he is notable, then the article should assert this; as it is, however, the article would need so much rewriting even if he turns out to be notable, that it will be better with a clean start. Thus: Delete. Lilac Soul (talk • contribs • count) - Review me! 13:08, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Yeah, I saw that one and one other on Amazon too. But since neither of them can be purchased, I said I couldn't find them. Maybe I should have been more specific. Just clarifying. :) faithless (speak) 00:10, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletions. -- the wub "?!" 13:46, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletions. —David Eppstein 15:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:BIO. --Bfigura (talk) 21:34, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Editorship of journals can sometimes be an important element of academic notability, but I haven't the least idea of the importance of the journals concerned. His career is so much in an unfamiliar niche that I can not really judge. DGG (talk) 23:40, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per lack of coverage for him + his works Corpx 02:59, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Firing up ProQuest (pay service) I find one article mentioning this guy. It is "Esperanto: Universal language: 'Neutral language' easier than English" by Joann Deluna, published in Knight Ridder Tribune Business News, January 27, 2006, which describes him as an Esperanto poet and retired language professor. So the guy is verifiable at least. Agree that this thing reads like a vanity article, and note that most of the content was added by a contributor with no other edits other than those associated with this article. Crypticfirefly 03:42, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep He is in the Esperanto Wikipedia as a member of the Academy of Esperanto. I can verify that he did write those books, but they probably won't show up in Amazon. They were all written 1992 or before, and probably published by small presses just for Esperantists. Here is an authorship listing page in Esperanto about him. I agree that this article does need cleaning. If you wouldn't mind, would you please give me a chance to clean it up? -- Yekrats 19:21, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.