Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edward Baker Lincoln

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Keep. This information must be covered somewhere. The argument that the main Lincoln articles are over-long, and that this serves as a split from them, is compelling; this argument does not require one to determine whether young E. B. Lincoln is notable in his own right, though he may well be. Xoloz 17:29, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edward Baker Lincoln

Non notable, being a son of Abraham Lincoln is only claim to fame Fram 12:32, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

• PLEASE KEEP. It's very important! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.153.179.234 (talk • contribs)
• Keep Do keep this one, it's been edited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.153.179.234 (talk • contribs)
  • Comment: the two preceding comments are the only edits by this author except for edits to the AfD'es article just before and after these comments. They were added to the topo of this AfD. Fram 19:58, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. To keep main Lincoln article succinct, section on his family should link to separate articles for each member. Childen who die young rarely have time to do something "notable" in their own right, but their deaths typically have a profound effect on the notable person discussed. Further, this child is named after a notable friend of Lincoln's, which also helps flesh out the Lincoln article without adding to the main article's length. Jokestress 15:45, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, does not meet WP:BIO criteria and I personally don't accept the notion of conferred notability. A mention could be added to Abraham Lincoln.--Isotope23 16:38, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Jokestress. NawlinWiki 19:52, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep per Jokestress.Englishrose 19:56, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

• Comment. I don't see why every member has to have a very short article, when you could fill one reasonably-sized article about the whole of his family. Fram 20:44, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, or merge into some article about his family. Being the son of a notable figure doesn't automatically make you notable. Fails WP:BIO. --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 22:10, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and Coredsat (little to merge in this case); Eddie, Tad and Willie Lincoln should be mentioned in their parents' articles, but they are not notable in themselves. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:19, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

• Comment. Ya'll better get to deleting Tad and Willie too, then. Lotsa other presidents' family members' articles in need of removal, too-- I think Tyler alone had 15 kids (not including the disputed ones). At the very least, maybe you can come up with a precedent that would apply to all presidents, like a standardized family/genealogy page or something, that would allow these biographies a place on the project without cluttering up already overlong presidential articles. Richard Nixon's brothers are concurrently getting the axe, too, and I'll bet his mom and dad aren't far behind. I'd rather see y'all merge than delete information wholesale, but I seem to be in the minority here. Jokestress 01:16, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, for Willie and Tad Lincoln, and for Nixon's family, a merge would be my preferred solution, but there's nothing to merge here. Angus McLellan (Talk) 09:51, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

• Strong Keep Same reason as Jokestress. --YankeeDoodle14 04:16, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. As from Angus McLellan above, mention should be made in their parents' articles or in a posible article about his family (from users Coredesat / Fram). Being the offspring of a notable person doesn't automaticaly confer notability.--blue520 10:02, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, as per nomination. The stress caused on the father and the name of the father's friend are non-notable.--Panairjdde 13:19, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.