Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edina Lekovic

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete until independent notability can be established. ck lostsword•T•C 12:24, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edina Lekovic

Edina Lekovic (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Note: This debate was included in the list of Islam-related deletions at 19:04, 30 June 2007 by 80.137.218.65 (talk · contribs). -- John Vandenberg 07:47, 5 July 2007 (UTC) Subject is barely notable apart from a few mentions in a few news articles, a look at the edit history shows severe BLP issues. and in its current state is 2 sentences long. Bleh999 08:31, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Note to closing admin This discussion is riddled with sockpuppet comments.--SefringleTalk 05:03, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Subject is non-notable, notability by association with the Council she works for cannot really be claimed Recurring dreams 09:18, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

* Just commenting I don't really wish to vote because I don't know really know what the threshold for notability is here but her MPAC page states that:

"Edina has appeared on national media outlets, including CNN, BBC, MSNBC, and the History Channel. Since joining MPAC, Edina's work has also been featured in several leading newspapers, including the Wall Street Journal, Washington Times, Associated Press, Chicago Tribune, and Los Angeles Times. Edina has also participated in numerous national and international conferences and interfaith dialogues speaking on a variety of issues related to American Muslims. In December 2004, Edina represented MPAC at a United Nations seminar on "Confronting Islamophobia." In 2003, Edina was invited by the Malaysian government to be one of two U.S. representatives to the International Conference of Muslim Young Leaders, which served as a precursor to the annual conference of the Organization of Islamic Conference (OIC)":I feel that User:Matt57 created the page primarily to disparage Edina and that User:Karl Meier and User:Arrow740 wanted to keep it that way. I was arguing that what they were inserting was a guilty by association attack, explicitly disallowed by your BLP policy. After User:Arrow740 reported an alleged conflict of interest, between the admin who protected the page and Matt57, on the noticeboard, it backfired with even more people telling him that it was a policy violation to include such material. Thank you. Lekociv 16:30, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
This user was a sock puppet of His Excellency. Thanks to the people who initiated the check user. --Matt57 (talk•contribs) 19:15, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

::I suspect you are Edina Lekovic. Per WP:BLP, wikipedians aren't supposed to edit articles about themselves.--SefringleTalk 02:02, 1 July 2007 (UTC) Apparently not, unless H.E. is Edina Lekovic.--SefringleTalk 23:18, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete, I don't see any particular evidence that a full biography of this person is possible, though it might be beneficial to mention her in connection with some of the more notable events. And Sefringle, since when did WP:BLP ever say a subject may not edit an article about themself? People are certainly advised to be careful in doing so, but there's not a blanket, 100% prohibition on it. Seraphimblade Talk to me 09:55, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
That user Lekociv has been exposed as a sock puppet of His Excellency.--Matt57 (talk•contribs) 19:14, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete for now: reopen if at some point this entry is presented as a full biography. A list of sources is insufficient. Given the now-deleted material this entry was not off to a very good start; it was the very definition of WP:COAT. -Jmh123 04:43, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete changed to Strong delete per my comment below. If this article is going to be about the woman, then keep. But if it is going to be a violation of WP:COAT, then delete. Seeing as the article has taken the latter path, it ought to be deleted. WP:BLP also makes the deletion of this article seem favorable.--Flamgirlant 06:59, 2 July 2007 (UTC) (Kirbytime sockpuppet--SefringleTalk 02:03, 6 July 2007 (UTC))
  • Delete. She's a spokesperson. She gets quoted because that's her job. These articles aren't about her, and provide no biographical information that we could use to create anything more than a stub. Jehochman Hablar 08:21, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep She appears on national TV as a pundit in her own right. Her utter defeat in a debate with Robert Spencer is a classic. Arrow740 09:21, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
She was rudely cut off by the host, Mr. Spencer got both the first AND the last word...how can you characterize this attempt by Fox News to smear this woman as a "debate"? If this is the kind of stuff that is going to appear in this article, I am changing my vote from delete to strong delete. There is no room for such obvious marginalization of a woman. That host should be ashamed for being such a bitch.--Flamgirlant 10:36, 2 July 2007 (UTC) (Kirbytime sockpuppet--SefringleTalk 02:03, 6 July 2007 (UTC))
  • Delete for now and then allow a fresh start, sufficient references available. Addhoc 10:01, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per BLP issues. I'd rather not have the article recreated right away, either, or we might be right back where we started. Mangojuicetalk 21:02, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
  • delete other than her association with the council she has no WP:BIO claim. BLP concerns have been dealt with already it would seem. After BLP cleanup not much of value remains... nuke it.  ALKIVAR™ ☢ 06:57, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete: per Alkivar. Article should also not be re-created unless substantial additional notability has been established to address WP:COAT concerns which is problematic on a BLP article and any re-creation should be dealt with per WP:CSD#G4. → AA (talk • contribs) — 10:02, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - She's just a spokeswoman, nothing notable about her. Lizrael 12:46, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Nothing notable? Did you the long list of News links I gave above? --Matt57 (talk•contribs) 01:26, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - See Matt57's comment above.--Kitrus 04:29, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: I will recreate this article later that will address all concerns of notability and BLP stuff. Notability is established already. --Matt57 (talk•contribs) 01:26, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.