Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eddy (Ed, Edd n Eddy)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Arguments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ed (Ed, Edd n Eddy) not made here are also relevant. WjBscribe 23:37, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Eddy (Ed, Edd n Eddy)

Eddy_(Ed,_Edd_n_Eddy) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) - (View log)

This page duplicates material already covered in List of characters in Ed, Edd n Eddy. It is full of fancruft, and was created to try and circumvent the will of the editing community at the above mentioned article, who have resisted attempts to create these pages. -- Elaich 17:10, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

• Keep as the characters are still notable enough to have seperate pages.--Piemanmoo 17:43, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Eddy is one of the title characters and main characters of the show. I believe he is notable enough to have his own article.  Orfen ^{User Talk} | _Contribs 18:29, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. It only needs a cleaup and some extending. The Prince of Darkness 18:57, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

• Strong delete These characters do not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines and as such, do not deserve separate pages. -- 71.138.27.12 01:50, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

• This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT 12:42, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

• Keep - he's one of the main characters of a reasonably popular cartoon series-EMP 12:47, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

"Major characters (and places, concepts, etc.) in a work of fiction should be covered within the article on that work of fiction. If an encyclopedic treatment of such a character causes the article on the work itself to become long, then that character can be given a separate article." Such is not the case with Ed, Edd and Eddy. The three characters are covered quite well on the List of characters in Ed, Edd n Eddy. They are not too long, and there is not enough substance to justify separate pages. As I mentioned at the top, the will of the community, as discussed on the talk page, is to keep things as they are. These pages were created in 2005 by a particularly disruptive editor, and have been kept alive by others who do not wish to accept the will of the community, at the same time refusing to work with the community. We will speedily delete any links to these page in the article anyway, so there is no reason for them to exist. They are just traps for fancruft. -- Elaich 16:41, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

• Comment, I'm kind of going to stay neutral on whether the article should be kept or not. After all, it does comply with most of WP:FICT, but it could use a bit of work (probably with tone, trivia, and in-universe perspective). On the other hand, if I wanted the admin to delete the article, much of the editors (especially Elaich and the IP who keeps experimenting with Linux) who edit List of characters in Ed, Edd n Eddy would be happy about it. There would be less "fancruft traps."

For those who have rarely edited or not edited Ed, Edd n Eddy-related articles at all, please note that the Ed, Edd n Eddy for much of its history has had serious problems with other editors adding cruft to the page. The problem can be traced back as far as November 2005, but I could be wrong about that. Also look at this version of the article. Some of the content in there, such as, "In one episode, we see Ed's mothers hand (which looks really big also) drag Ed away due to his bad report card (straight F's). In another episode, Ed had a dream with his mother having Jonny's face," would have been reverted if it was even added back today because it would violate the "rules" on Talk:List of characters in Ed, Edd n Eddy. If you read the Talk:Ed, Edd n Eddy archives (even the first one), you would also find that editors have been facing problems with other editors adding fancruft or irrelevent information. The page was repeatedly reported to WP:RFPP, but the requests were declined. This situation got so bad, that finally, an admin decided to protect the page due to content disputes.

I have a question I want to ask about you, Elaich. Do you have any reasoning for calling User:Wack'd About Wiki a disruptive editor? Any diffs or anything to back up that claim? I think I've heard the editor state that he/she used to be disruptive, but changed as he/she started to contribute to Wikipedia more (or something along the lines of that), but I don't remember what page it was. Now here's some advice for you: You did not follow the instructions at WP:AFD. You did not use the text that the page gave you. I'm referring to the one that enables you to put your reason for why you wanted the article to be deleted and that allows you to add a deletion category. You also didn't list the page at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2007 April 14. You did not follow instructions for nominating multiple articles that are related to this one (you nominated the other Eds, yet gave them separate AFD's).

Finally, you mentioned on my talk page to "vote" here. Are you aware that Wikipedia is not a democracy? If not, you should read it. It's very useful. Squirepants101 01:13, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

This page was created by User:Bobber2. -- Elaich 22:34, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

I just discovered that User:71.138.27.12 (the IP who keeps experimenting with Linux. Mentioned above) informed User:DietLimeCola with the exact same message User:Elaich gave to me seven minutes earlier. Is this just a coincidence or is it a cause for concern? I believe it's just mere coincidence. Squirepants101 04:33, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

• Keep Afd is not the place to take content disputes and it's not for demanding article cleanup (I know, I've listed articles before with the comment "article is poorly written" but in this case there's a whole explanation about the dispute. Nardman1 13:39, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Characters don't meet notability guidelines; bio information on List of characters in Ed, Edd n Eddy is sufficient; readers would be forced to click on yet another link to read information. -- 172.190.29.107 17:46, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Since he's a main charachter, then it should have it's own page, but it (the article) needs to get bigger.R68 2818 20:42, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.